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<p>[QUOTE="umtrr-author, post: 280871, member: 5719"]I guess I feel strongly both ways... </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm in violent agreement with GD that the primary responsibility for keeping oneself safe from fraud et al is oneself. "Caveat emptor" was not originated when eBay came along... </p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, what's different between eBay and the basic neighborhood flea market is its <b>reach</b>. Post a coin for sale, or any other item for that matter, out on eBay and the potential audience is huge, and worldwide. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is clearly a double-edged sword: it's possible to get something on eBay you'd almost never find otherwise. A non-coin personal example is an old "Social Studies" book I read over and over as a first grader, delivered to my door for just a buck plus shipping. I can't imagine how many flea markets, used book stores, garage sales, etc. I would have had to comb to come up with it otherwise. </p><p><br /></p><p>I would be lying if I said I didn't get some great deals on eBay as well, although not so much in the coin category, and I think most folks here would be with me on that point. However, you've really got to know what you're doing, which comes back to education.</p><p><br /></p><p>But there's the downside, and although we're talking mostly completely fraudulent items here, there is also the general problem of poor or misleading descriptions and grading-- whether deliberate or not. It's one thing for a less than above board "dealer" to shove an NG-0 Morgan in your face when you're down at the local swap meet and it's another when said "dealer" has an audience that's potentially in the thousands, if not more. It does a disservice to the hobby that is far more damaging than if confined to a purely local venue. The net for Thalia and me is that I've largely shied away from eBay for coins-- I just don't feel I know enough yet to "Shop Victoriously" (to use their silly new slogan).</p><p><br /></p><p>One other point that's somewhat unrelated-- does it seem that the Canadian TPGs have been frozen out of the official listing of approved graders? Though they don't "slab" in the strict sense of the word, I don't think that ICCS would be considered a shady player in the market, for example.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="umtrr-author, post: 280871, member: 5719"]I guess I feel strongly both ways... I'm in violent agreement with GD that the primary responsibility for keeping oneself safe from fraud et al is oneself. "Caveat emptor" was not originated when eBay came along... On the other hand, what's different between eBay and the basic neighborhood flea market is its [b]reach[/b]. Post a coin for sale, or any other item for that matter, out on eBay and the potential audience is huge, and worldwide. This is clearly a double-edged sword: it's possible to get something on eBay you'd almost never find otherwise. A non-coin personal example is an old "Social Studies" book I read over and over as a first grader, delivered to my door for just a buck plus shipping. I can't imagine how many flea markets, used book stores, garage sales, etc. I would have had to comb to come up with it otherwise. I would be lying if I said I didn't get some great deals on eBay as well, although not so much in the coin category, and I think most folks here would be with me on that point. However, you've really got to know what you're doing, which comes back to education. But there's the downside, and although we're talking mostly completely fraudulent items here, there is also the general problem of poor or misleading descriptions and grading-- whether deliberate or not. It's one thing for a less than above board "dealer" to shove an NG-0 Morgan in your face when you're down at the local swap meet and it's another when said "dealer" has an audience that's potentially in the thousands, if not more. It does a disservice to the hobby that is far more damaging than if confined to a purely local venue. The net for Thalia and me is that I've largely shied away from eBay for coins-- I just don't feel I know enough yet to "Shop Victoriously" (to use their silly new slogan). One other point that's somewhat unrelated-- does it seem that the Canadian TPGs have been frozen out of the official listing of approved graders? Though they don't "slab" in the strict sense of the word, I don't think that ICCS would be considered a shady player in the market, for example.[/QUOTE]
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