Dutch Masters

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Onofrio Bacigalupo, May 4, 2017.

  1. Onofrio Bacigalupo

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  4. edduns

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    I collect German Occupation coinage and I find the Netherlands coins to be superb examples of there work.

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  5. Onofrio Bacigalupo

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  6. edduns

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    Ooops forgot this one. eb9fe14e-5fc1-11e5-948a-fdc452741d27.jpg eb672660-5fc1-11e5-8cef-3329080e6857.jpg
     
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  7. edduns

    edduns Senior Member

    Yes they are Zinc. There is a 25 cent one but I lost my picture of it - will have to shoot it again.
     
  8. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info.
     
  9. Guilder Pincher

    Guilder Pincher Well-Known Member

    I've posted mostly Dutch republic and ancient coins so far, so I figured it's time to post some Dutch kingdom coins. First up is a 10 cent coin of Willem/William I from 1827. This is the most common date, which is why I can afford it in a higher grade ;). The design is pretty traditional for its time, taking cues from earlier monogram coins such as those from Prussia and other German states, to produce new designs fit for a newly crowned (or rather inaugurated, as Dutch monarchs are never literally crowned) king. Despite their unoriginality, I can't help but love the elegant simplicity of these coins.

    Fun fact: the style of the W was merely a first suggestion by the engraver, David van der Kellen senior. It was accepted without a single modification!

    Fun fact #2: the planchets for these coins were relatively heavily blanched, which is why the worn parts look much yellower (more yellow?)

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  10. Guilder Pincher

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    Next up, a 1 cent coin of Willem III. The design of this coin was unchanged from that of Willem I and by 1877 was pretty antiquated. To add some distinction between copper and silver coins, a different style of W was used. While the silver fractional coinage of Willem I had been replaced by new designs during the great silver recoinage of 1848/1849 with new designs featuring the portrait of Willem II in place of the monogram, copper fractional coinage was not replaced by new designs (in bronze) until midway through 1877, making this particular coin the last of its lineage. Both types exist for this date.
    Fun fact: the diameter of the 1 cent coin was increased by 1 millimeter at the last moment to make it more distinct from the 25 cent coin, after the master dies had been cut. This is why the design is noticeably further from the edge than on the other Dutch monogram coins.
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  11. Guilder Pincher

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    Next up is a 5 cent coin of Willem I. Once again, 1827 Utrecht mint is the most common date. Nothing much to add that hasn't been addressed already with the 10 cent coin up above, except that this is an adorably tiny coin at 15 millimeters/.59" diameter.

    Edited to add: note the slight die clash, parts of the W are visible on the reverse, especially at the base of the crown and to the lower left of the C.
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  12. Guilder Pincher

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    25C262-1980x1960.jpg 25C26-1972x1980.jpg Next is a 25 cent coin of Willem I. This one was minted at the Brussels mint, while present day Belgium was still part of the short-lived United Netherlands, and as such carries the "B" mint mark. The palm branch privy mark is that of G.D. Bourgogne Herlaer, master of the Brussels mint throughout this period. After the Belgian revolt of 1830, all Dutch coins would be minted at the Utrecht mint. This is the highest denomination of the monogram type; 50 Cent/half guilder coins bore the portrait of Willem I like the 1 and 2.5 guilder coins.
     
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  13. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member Moderator

    ...and modern: 5 euro from Netherlands.
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  14. Guilder Pincher

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    Next, a half cent coin of the monogram type. These are scarce-ish of Willem I and II vintage, and are in fact the only copper coins struck under Willem II; no 1 cent coins of Willem II exist. This particular example was struck during the reign of Willem III and caught my eye because of its interesting juxtaposition of bluish toning (not very evident on the photos), remaining lustre and some polished pink copper on the coat of arms. I realise that the latter is considered undesirable, but sometimes I'm intrigued by the weird and wonderful :). Like the 1 cent coins, these half cent coins were replaced by a new bronze type in 1877, long after the silver monogram type fractional coinage had been abandoned. 0.5C67.jpg 0.5C672.jpg
     
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  15. Guilder Pincher

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    I'm not that into modern coins, but I actually like the extremely stylized portrait on this coin. For anyone familiar with Beatrix and her highly idiosyncratic hairstyle, there's no mistaking that profile. Hate or love the hairstyle, she stuck to it :)
     
  16. doppeltaler

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    My favorite and my pride, silver double ducatoon from Zeeland, weigh 56g.

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  17. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

    Woow! Splendid coin! Congrats
     
  18. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector Supporter

    In this case the somewhat strange style made a lot of sense. :) This was from a "mini-series" dealing with Dutch art. In 2011 there was a coin about painting where you see Beatrix looking at one of Jan Vermeer's works. In the next year, this sculpture coin came out. Both the "face value word" (vijf, or tien on the €10 piece) are designed like sculpture blocks, and so is Beatrix's portrait. The Dutch Architecture coin (2008) could also be considered to be part of the series ...

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