Message:

<p>[QUOTE=&quot;goldducat, post: 1647433, member: 37873&quot;]You should, Herbie, you should <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It is the most amazing world coin I&#039;ve even seen. And you will be surprised many times with other unusual variants od the Dutch gold ducats, you&#039;ll see. BTW, I would say the first attempt to mint provincial gold ducat was closer to 400 than to 500 years ago - in 1583 in Holland province. This is extremely rare coin, I saw it twice on auctions in 2002 (at Lanz München auction, sold for $4,167 + BP) and in 2010 (at Künker, sold for $6,449 + BP), both VF condition. However, it was a ducat different in picture from later &quot;usual&quot; ducats, minted regularly in several provincial mints from 1586. This date is usually considered by writers to be the birth year of the Dutch gold ducat.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Almost each ducat (each mint and each date) has got different mintage. All numbers are recorded in the records of all provincial mints. About ducat discussed (Gelderland 1638) common mintage for years 1635-1640 is known. In those years 332,920 golden single ducats was minted in the mint of Gelderland province. In records we may read that ducats were minted in this time period with dates of 1637, 1638 and 1640.</p><p>There is nothing said in mint records about 1638 piedfort ducat (6,9g), coin known from old auctions. Also ducat with date of 1639 exists.</p><p><br /></p><p>332,920 pieces - is it large ar small mintage? In the same time period were minted also:</p><p>- 93,603 marks (not pieces) of whole daalders (with the date of 1639 and 1640) and half daalders (dated 1637)</p><p>- 590,790 pcs of duiten (small denomination).</p><p>Therefore we may say that number of ducats minted it&#039;s a lot. From the other hand huge part of this mintage was melted down, because gold ducat was a coin for trade, circulation in various countries, not only in Low Countries. It those countries Dutch ducats were very often melted down to get material for minting national coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I found this 163-8 once in my archives of auction records, sold in June 6, 1967 (Schulman auction house, condition VF/VF-).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Please, do not believe in everything you read in Krause&#039;s &quot;World Gold Coins&quot; when we talk about the Dutch gold ducats. Dates, variants and their pricing/rarity seems to be <u>far</u> from the truth in this catalogue.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

Your name or email address:

Do you already have an account?

• No, create an account now.
• Yes, my password is:
• Forgot your password?

Stay logged in