Duo of Charles I

Haven't read that one, but read Sydney Painter's book on him years ago. Always loved the story of Stephen threatening to put him in a catapult when he was a child...

 

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The oldest English coin I have represents king William The Third. It dates back to 1701.

 

I know, it's amazing to think about. The milled coinage put an end to the clipping. It's surprising that England was so late to adopt it. I believe there was a limited run of milled issues for Elizabeth I, Charles I and Cromwell - but it wasn't until Charles II that it was adopted as the standard.

 

I love these! Especially P&M! I had one once as a kid, but sold it to buy jeans lol. I'll need a new one.

 

some neat coins here guys!

i just posted my edward ii penny in another thread, this is the next oldest coin i have from the area...quite a gap. need to plug something in there.

 

I have by the way the 3rd edition Krause catalog for 17th century coins. I was wondering if you knew the KM#'s for each of these coins ? the collector in me wants to look them up. your half crown has many that look like your coin and I am not sure which KM# it is ??? as for your shilling I see some that look like your coin. not sure which KM# it is as well ???

 

Not sure about KM#s. The Seaby references I was given were S2779 (for the half-crown) and S2789 (shilling).

 

I do not know what that is ? oh well. thanks anyhow. I have no 17th century coins now, but enjoy looking at my 17th-to date Krause catalogs. maybe someday when I do my birth year century set 1961, 1861, 1761, 1661, 1561 and I don't really know if I can go farther back than that ??? lol my question is...how far back did any country have the date on their coins ?

 

Taken from the 2015 British Spink (Seaby):
S2779 Group IV, fourth horseman, type 4, foreshortened horse. R. Oval garnished shield; mm. star, triangle in circle. F £60, VF £225

S2789 Group D, forth bust, type 3.1, with flying lace collar, inner circles. R. Garnished oval shield with CR at sides (Sharp D1-6/1); mm harp, portcullis F £65 VF £260.

A good starter for mint marks is: http://www.psdetecting.com/Mintmarks-CharlesI-&-CharlesII.html

 

I have Krause for 17th century too - it is not really much good for British coins this early. (Much as I am sure you would not use Krause for US coins except at a very simple level!)

I have had a close look and I would suggest the Halfcrown is KM#121 and the date (from the mint mark) would be 1641 to 1643.
The Shilling I believe is KM#105 and the date 1633 to 1634.

I hope that helps.

 

thank you PaddyB. I enjoyed looking them up.