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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24833476, member: 26430"]Nice specimen with unusually clear rev. scene (usually the snake is hard to make out) & date! Cataloging coins in great detail & finding such rarities is one of the fun things about collecting Provincials!</p><p><br /></p><p>Note, however, a correction you may want to make:</p><p>This type is not absent from von Aulock Pisidiens, there are 8 specimens (661-668) cited for this date (HI = Year 18) in vol. 1.</p><p>(I've cut-and-pasted them all below.)</p><p><br /></p><p>(Maybe you meant it's absent from SNG von Aulock?)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>RPC Online cites them in the "Reference:" line at the top of the page: <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/3512r" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/3512r" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/3512r</a></p><p><br /></p><p>but hasn't added individual entries below for most of the specimens yet (that happens occasionally).</p><p>The only one with a specimen record is von Aulock Psidiens 682 = one of the BnF Paris coins (they have at least 2). Here's <a href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2" rel="nofollow">the other BnF specimen (430)</a> cited by von Aulock (Pisidiens 681):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590423[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>But the other 7 are of this same type too.</p><p><br /></p><p>(Since there were 20 different regnal years for RPC 3512, it looks like they may have just decided to post one spec. online per civic year from the RPC print vol. I when going digital? Most of <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?q=3512+isinda" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?q=3512+isinda" rel="nofollow">the other Years, 1-20, for RPC 3512a-3512t</a> also have their own, different sets of von Aulock <i>Pisidiens</i> nos. cited in the "Reference" lines, but not all the individual specs. posted; however, their descriptions are all individually available in the database linked below.)</p><p><br /></p><p>If you look up this type in ISEGRIM (text only, no photos, but very valuable database for Asia Minor) you can find further references for those specimens.</p><p><br /></p><p>Available online (or as an Excel download from Wildwinds updated with additional records by Dane):</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim_neu/test2014.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim_neu/test2014.php" rel="nofollow">http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim_neu/test2014.php</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Bibliographical references for RPC 3512r (HI = Year 18):</b></p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 661(1) = SNG FRANCE 3 1585(1) = <a href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2" rel="nofollow">COLL PARIS 430(1)</a> <i>[image above] </i>/</p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 662(2) = SNG FRANCE 3 1586(2) = COLL PARIS 425C.1(2) = cited on <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/349289" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/349289" rel="nofollow">RPC I Online 3512r, spec. 1</a> /</p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 663(3) = COLL WIEN(3) /</p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 664(4) = COLL ANS(4) [<a href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2" rel="nofollow">prob. this spec.</a> based on weight but no photo or description of Yr] /</p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 665(5) = COLL ATHEN(5) = SVORONOS JIAN 1903 S226,474(5) /</p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 666(6) & 667(7) = COLL ROM(6-7) /</p><p>- AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 668(8)<FUND> = COLL ISTANBUL(8)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's one from <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3288084" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3288084" rel="nofollow">CNG EA 300, 157</a>, citing the BnF specimen illustrated above, and suggesting a date for CY 18 (HI) of "8/7 BC or 5/6 AD?" [ISEGRIM gives 8 BC to 9 AD, not sure what the uncertain dates are based on; Cohen's <i>Dated Coins of Antiquity</i>, No. 549, includes other CY's for the Isinda's AEs, suggesting 8/7 BC for this one.][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24833476, member: 26430"]Nice specimen with unusually clear rev. scene (usually the snake is hard to make out) & date! Cataloging coins in great detail & finding such rarities is one of the fun things about collecting Provincials! Note, however, a correction you may want to make: This type is not absent from von Aulock Pisidiens, there are 8 specimens (661-668) cited for this date (HI = Year 18) in vol. 1. (I've cut-and-pasted them all below.) (Maybe you meant it's absent from SNG von Aulock?) RPC Online cites them in the "Reference:" line at the top of the page: [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/3512r[/URL] but hasn't added individual entries below for most of the specimens yet (that happens occasionally). The only one with a specimen record is von Aulock Psidiens 682 = one of the BnF Paris coins (they have at least 2). Here's [URL='https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2']the other BnF specimen (430)[/URL] cited by von Aulock (Pisidiens 681): [ATTACH=full]1590423[/ATTACH] But the other 7 are of this same type too. (Since there were 20 different regnal years for RPC 3512, it looks like they may have just decided to post one spec. online per civic year from the RPC print vol. I when going digital? Most of [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?q=3512+isinda']the other Years, 1-20, for RPC 3512a-3512t[/URL] also have their own, different sets of von Aulock [I]Pisidiens[/I] nos. cited in the "Reference" lines, but not all the individual specs. posted; however, their descriptions are all individually available in the database linked below.) If you look up this type in ISEGRIM (text only, no photos, but very valuable database for Asia Minor) you can find further references for those specimens. Available online (or as an Excel download from Wildwinds updated with additional records by Dane): [URL]http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim_neu/test2014.php[/URL] [B]Bibliographical references for RPC 3512r (HI = Year 18):[/B] - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 661(1) = SNG FRANCE 3 1585(1) = [URL='https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2']COLL PARIS 430(1)[/URL] [I][image above] [/I]/ - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 662(2) = SNG FRANCE 3 1586(2) = COLL PARIS 425C.1(2) = cited on [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/349289']RPC I Online 3512r, spec. 1[/URL] / - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 663(3) = COLL WIEN(3) / - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 664(4) = COLL ANS(4) [[URL='https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8515926g.r=isinda430%20430?rk=21459;2']prob. this spec.[/URL] based on weight but no photo or description of Yr] / - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 665(5) = COLL ATHEN(5) = SVORONOS JIAN 1903 S226,474(5) / - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 666(6) & 667(7) = COLL ROM(6-7) / - AULOCK PISIDIEN 1 668(8)<FUND> = COLL ISTANBUL(8) Here's one from [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3288084']CNG EA 300, 157[/URL], citing the BnF specimen illustrated above, and suggesting a date for CY 18 (HI) of "8/7 BC or 5/6 AD?" [ISEGRIM gives 8 BC to 9 AD, not sure what the uncertain dates are based on; Cohen's [I]Dated Coins of Antiquity[/I], No. 549, includes other CY's for the Isinda's AEs, suggesting 8/7 BC for this one.][/QUOTE]
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