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Message:: [QUOTE="Mark T, post: 871841, member: 20061"]There is almost no detail left on either of the wings. A little detail is left in the tail feathers.  I believe the inner wings near the eagles body are the lowest point of the coins reverse and they are very flat. This is all strike related . Look at the coins listed on the PCGS Photograde site for FH Dollars: <a href="http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/#/FlowingDol/Grades" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/#/FlowingDol/Grades" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/#/FlowingDol/Grades</a> You can still see some left wing details on a VG08 coin. The Obverse strike on the CAC coin  is quite good. Using Photo grade the Obverse details would be VF 20 and the Reverse VG 08 . Here is a link from the NGC web site for Fh Dollars: http://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading-guide/Grading-Flowing-Hair-Half-Dollars.aspx My comments on the Heritage photo are not about the grade rather the look and eye appeal of the coin. I can see all the details clearly however from experience buying coins from Heritage I know their pictures often do not do a coin justice looks wise. I am ok with a F 12 grade on this coin and not just because CAC said so .<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]