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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 822514, member: 15309"]Mike,</p><p> </p><p>If I understand your question correctly you are wondering how a TPG knows what the typical strike characteristic of a particular date/mm when they only have EDS coins available to grade. The answer is that very few modern coins have incomplete strike issues due to technological advances in the minting process and reduced relief of coin designs. Therefore, the TPG does not need to consider striking quality for moderns.</p><p> </p><p>However, if you are referring to die state, it has been designated by collectors for years. EDS (early die state), MDS (middle die state), and LDS (late die state) are the typical terms. By itself, die state is not a factor in grading a coin, however, it can affect the grade of the coin. Both luster and strike are elements of coin grading. Some LDS coins may be limited in grade due to incomplete striking caused by die wear. This is independent from the stike weakness that may or may not be typical for the issue. However, LDS coins will often display incredible luster that may actually increase the coins grade in the event that the strike is still complete.</p><p> </p><p>To make the issue even more confusing, some collectors focus on EDS and others on LDS. In my experience, the EDS collectors are the strike conscious collectors while the LDS collectors are variety collectors.</p><p> </p><p>Here is a link to a question posed on the PCGS message board and the repsonse by David Hall about die cracks which are usually indicative of a late die state coin.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=151440" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=151440" rel="nofollow">http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=151440</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 822514, member: 15309"]Mike, If I understand your question correctly you are wondering how a TPG knows what the typical strike characteristic of a particular date/mm when they only have EDS coins available to grade. The answer is that very few modern coins have incomplete strike issues due to technological advances in the minting process and reduced relief of coin designs. Therefore, the TPG does not need to consider striking quality for moderns. However, if you are referring to die state, it has been designated by collectors for years. EDS (early die state), MDS (middle die state), and LDS (late die state) are the typical terms. By itself, die state is not a factor in grading a coin, however, it can affect the grade of the coin. Both luster and strike are elements of coin grading. Some LDS coins may be limited in grade due to incomplete striking caused by die wear. This is independent from the stike weakness that may or may not be typical for the issue. However, LDS coins will often display incredible luster that may actually increase the coins grade in the event that the strike is still complete. To make the issue even more confusing, some collectors focus on EDS and others on LDS. In my experience, the EDS collectors are the strike conscious collectors while the LDS collectors are variety collectors. Here is a link to a question posed on the PCGS message board and the repsonse by David Hall about die cracks which are usually indicative of a late die state coin. [URL]http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=151440[/URL][/QUOTE]
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