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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8302583, member: 85693"]To compound the confusion, Hadrian started out with radiate dupondii and then dropped the radiate crown, replacing it with a laurel wreath, just like the as. Here is the relevant information:</p><p><br /></p><p>"Another denominational alteration is the disappearance of the radiate effigy as indicator of the dupondius. It would be absent for the subsequent part of Hadrian's reign until the revival of the radiate dupondius under Antoninus Pius...Although slightly heavier than the as, both it and the dupondius were typically of similar module, hence the need from this part of the RIC catalogue onwards to have a dupondius or as (dp/as) category. Most specimens do not retain bare metal surfaces that show whether they are made of orichalcum or copper. Metal would have been the visual distinguishing factor in antiquity before Nero's regular use of the radiate bust on dupondii (from AD 64). The first signs of the disappearance of the radiate dupondius occur during the later stages of the HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P obverses." </p><p>(<i>Roman Imperial Coinage II.3: From AD 117 to AD 138 – Hadrian</i> by Richard Abdy, Peter Mittag), page 20.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is one of mine that I am pretty confident is a laureate dupondius - the weight and the visible yellow color make me think so: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1469064[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Hadrian Æ Dupondius</b></p><p><b>(c. 134-138 A.D.) </b></p><p><b>Rome Mint</b></p><p>[HADRI]ANVS [AVG COS III P P], laureate bust right / FID[ES PVBLI]CA S C, Fides standing right, holding two corn-ears downwards, in right hand and basket of fruit in left.</p><p>RIC II, 3 2269; BMC 1591</p><p>(old RIC 890d (dupondius))</p><p>(12.15 grams / 23 x 20 mm)</p><p>eBay Jan. 2021 </p><p><b>Attribution Note: </b></p><p>"Laureate bust" dupondius; Hadrian struck these c. 128-138 A.D.). </p><p>This type with "PVBLICA" is rare; OCRE has one, which is in the Münzkabinett, Kunst Historisches Museum Wien; British Museum has one as well.</p><p><a href="http://www.ikmk.at/object?id=ID61754" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ikmk.at/object?id=ID61754" rel="nofollow">http://www.ikmk.at/object?id=ID61754</a></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/ocre/</a> id/ric.2.hdn.809d_as</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This one, on the other hand, is hard to determine; the weight is sort of normal for either denomination and too much patina/crud obscure the color of the original metal. So like the imperial women as described by [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] above, I call it as/dupondius:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1469065[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Hadrian Æ As / Dupondius</b></p><p><b>(133-135 A.D.) </b></p><p><b>Rome Mint</b></p><p>HADRI[AN]VS [AVG CO]S III P P, bare head right / ANNONA [AVG] S C, Annona standing left, holding corn ears & rudder set on prow; modius at feet left</p><p>RIC II.3 2144 (as/dupondius)</p><p>(old RIC 796a).</p><p>(11.58 grams / 24 mm)</p><p>eBay Dec. 2018[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8302583, member: 85693"]To compound the confusion, Hadrian started out with radiate dupondii and then dropped the radiate crown, replacing it with a laurel wreath, just like the as. Here is the relevant information: "Another denominational alteration is the disappearance of the radiate effigy as indicator of the dupondius. It would be absent for the subsequent part of Hadrian's reign until the revival of the radiate dupondius under Antoninus Pius...Although slightly heavier than the as, both it and the dupondius were typically of similar module, hence the need from this part of the RIC catalogue onwards to have a dupondius or as (dp/as) category. Most specimens do not retain bare metal surfaces that show whether they are made of orichalcum or copper. Metal would have been the visual distinguishing factor in antiquity before Nero's regular use of the radiate bust on dupondii (from AD 64). The first signs of the disappearance of the radiate dupondius occur during the later stages of the HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P obverses." ([I]Roman Imperial Coinage II.3: From AD 117 to AD 138 – Hadrian[/I] by Richard Abdy, Peter Mittag), page 20. Here is one of mine that I am pretty confident is a laureate dupondius - the weight and the visible yellow color make me think so: [ATTACH=full]1469064[/ATTACH] [B]Hadrian Æ Dupondius (c. 134-138 A.D.) Rome Mint[/B] [HADRI]ANVS [AVG COS III P P], laureate bust right / FID[ES PVBLI]CA S C, Fides standing right, holding two corn-ears downwards, in right hand and basket of fruit in left. RIC II, 3 2269; BMC 1591 (old RIC 890d (dupondius)) (12.15 grams / 23 x 20 mm) eBay Jan. 2021 [B]Attribution Note: [/B] "Laureate bust" dupondius; Hadrian struck these c. 128-138 A.D.). This type with "PVBLICA" is rare; OCRE has one, which is in the Münzkabinett, Kunst Historisches Museum Wien; British Museum has one as well. [URL]http://www.ikmk.at/object?id=ID61754[/URL] [URL]http://numismatics.org/ocre/[/URL] id/ric.2.hdn.809d_as This one, on the other hand, is hard to determine; the weight is sort of normal for either denomination and too much patina/crud obscure the color of the original metal. So like the imperial women as described by [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] above, I call it as/dupondius: [ATTACH=full]1469065[/ATTACH] [B]Hadrian Æ As / Dupondius (133-135 A.D.) Rome Mint[/B] HADRI[AN]VS [AVG CO]S III P P, bare head right / ANNONA [AVG] S C, Annona standing left, holding corn ears & rudder set on prow; modius at feet left RIC II.3 2144 (as/dupondius) (old RIC 796a). (11.58 grams / 24 mm) eBay Dec. 2018[/QUOTE]
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