Doubling on 2015S Proof Scagawea?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Daniel Burden, Sep 19, 2019.

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  1. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    Hello all, longtime lurker here :)

    In my 2015 proof set, the Sacagawea dollar coin seems to have a significant doubling in the phrase "IN GOD WE TRUST".

    You can clearly see the word GOD and the R in TRUST superimposed over the existing inscription. There are also some streaks to the left of Sacagawea's profile.

    Sorry for the quality of the pictures, they were taken through the plastic of the mint set.

    I'm curious what you all think! Thanks :)
    2015S_1$_obverse.jpg 2015S_1$_Mod_closeup.jpg 2015S_1$_closeup.jpg
     
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  3. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    'thru the plastic' - you're seeing the reflection of the
    coin itself, and it's reflected back on the plastic.

    A very common effect for coins in plastic sets
    or round plastic holders.

    There is no doubling on the coin itself....sorry
     
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  4. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    Hi Fred,
    That's what I thought as well, at first. But the letters are definitely on the coin. I can see them from all angles. Here are pics at two lighting angles:
    angle 1.jpg angle 2.jpg
     
  5. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Is anything else on the Obverse doubled ?
     
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  6. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    All I can see is the GOD and R. You can also see some streaks to the left of the bust that might be hair? I am wondering if it's MD, but I cant figure out how that could be with the odd angle and huge spread.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Fred is right. It's nothing more than a reflection. I can't count how many times I've seen this on proof sets.

    Chris
     
  8. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    Hi Chris,
    Thanks for your input! I know, I know it looks like a reflection. But a reflection moves in different lighting - these letters are on the coin in the same place no matter how I light it (note the glare on the letters):

    Lit from bottom left angle 4.jpg
    Lit from top left angle 3.jpg
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Open it and remove the coin. Then take a picture.
     
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  10. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    I was hoping I wouldn't have to break it open... but I guess it's time to burn that bridge. I'll take some pics tonight.
     
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  11. TyCobb

    TyCobb A product of PMD

    It's barely there in your first picture of the full coin. It could be caused by the camera or the flash. Do you have a loupe? You should look at it with one first and move the coin around. You can also try rotating the coin 180* and see if it shows in the same spot or if you now see "WE TRUST" differently.
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    If you have a dealer around, or are in the vicinity of some of our more knowledgeable members, some other eyeballs could help before breaking it out.
     
  13. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    That's a good idea - I'm headed to a coin show next weekend, so maybe i'll bring the set along.
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    More eyes never hurt...
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Sorry double post.
     
  16. Daniel Burden

    Daniel Burden New Member

    Hey all,
    I got impatient and cracked it open. Unfortunately there is no doubling on the coin :(

    Here’s the deal: when the coin was first put into the set, it was pressed so strongly, it imprinted some sections of the coin into the plastic encapsulation. Then, I guess they rotated it enough so I would see the pattern on the plastic just a fraction of a mm above the coin! Oh well, that was exciting for a few days :)
     
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