Doubled ear or MD?

I think the main things to look at are the notches and the extra thickness .

 

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Yes, I try to. Some of them I just can't tell or be sure of, so I ask. I ask a lot on here and these guys are so wonderful and knowledgeable about things. They are very patient with explaining and sending me websites to help me. I really appreciate these guys on here.

 

I know what you mean , some are tough to tell especially the relatively minor ones . It's always better to ask and find out one way or the other and before you know it you'll be a go to person on doubling .

 

I would love to be that one day.

 

With your drive you will be , way before me .

 

Here's one for you to look at. It is a 1996 penny. Can you tell if there is any doubling or MD?

 

Well, you may be a much faster learner than me though. I am sllloooooooowwwwwww! Lol!

 

I see what you mean , but one thing that hampers me is my eyesight and my stubbornness that my old glasses are still good enough . My late wife had to force me to get glasses when I told her I saw 4 moons when walking our dog . That was when I was 53 , now I'm 62 and I keep telling myself I'm good for at least another year or three . Only problem was those glasses were for farsightedness and now I need some to read the paper . lol But from what I kind of see it looks promising . Though I'd wait for someone with more experience . @Jim M

 

My best guy friend is 68. Your not old! I hope I found one but I am just not sure. I will repost on error coin forum.

 

Here are a couple of MD coins I have saved. Notice the doubling on the face, ear, and on the '82 the TY in LIBERTY. Very similar to yours. I thought I had something with both of these. Only MD

 

That's cool looking. Mine is slightly different, but probably MD. Mine is only the ear. I just wanted to ask to make sure though. Most are obvious MD, but some are just so close to doubling that it confuses me. Those are nice to have to go back and refer to.

 

That's the reason it's so tough for those of us that are just learning about errors , sometimes even the top experts will disagree . If it was easy it wouldn't be so fun . A great book is "From Mines to Mint" by Roger W. Burdette . It's more about the minting process and the steps it takes to mint a coin . I just wish it had larger more detailed diagrams . But it's a good investment if you're really going to study errors as one has to know how a coin is minted and what causes the errors .

 

Here's a link .
http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/from-mine-to-mint.html

 

I have a problem where your statement, you're saying there can be no variations of the double ear, I may not be an expert and never will claim to be, over many years I have seen quite a few variations in coin errors a good example would be the homestead WDDRS there's so many variations there I can't keep up with them and I'm sure there's a lot more examples out there. As collectors we have to keep our eyes and minds open anything is possible. \V/

 

My bad as I'm certainly no expert on errors . It's just those books that list even the most minor of errors have people looking at things with electron microscopes (just joking) But hopefully you'll get my point . To me an error is one that a person with decent vision can see with at most a 3 X loupe . But I do see your point and if people like minor errors who am I to say not to collect them , especially if they enjoy doing it .

 

I totally agree on the real real real small ones when someone like Wexler is showing you a dot and saying it's a double die I haven't figured that one out yet. But that's what they're claiming this one you could actually see it at least I can with my glasses on and under 1x magnification, The point I was trying to make was that there had to been progression errors up to the double ear. Everyone wants the double ear because that's the most coveted one, but what about the ones that are not the finished product and most collectors throw them back into circulation. \/

 

There is no progression of a doubled die. The hub is created with the doubling and stamps out coins until someone notices the error and removes it, or it gets so worn it is removed. The hub deterioration is where they get the terms LDS = late die state, MDS = medium die state, EDS= early die state.
A doubled die always adds something to the design. If you look at the outline of the ear you will see that the ear itself is a normal size, it has a line in it from a hit but it is not larger than a regular ear. All of the doubled ears have larger than normal ears with a separation line between the ear, and the doubling.

 

I can see progressions in things like die cracks and such but not in true doubled dies as they happen in the hubbing process . Take the '55 Lincoln cent doubled die , there is only one . At least this is how I understand it . I just wish I knew more about errors to say with absolute conviction one way or another .

 

You're correct in your statement of the 55. When you come to the 97 as the double ear the mint workers both at Denver and Philadelphia meant say the cause for this double ear is misalignment of the blank, and if that statement is true by the workers at both mints that puts the possibility of finding varieties in the double ear. Since the error is not in the die itself like in the 55 possibilities are there to find one slightly different but still be a double ear, it's only logical. \V/

 

What is misalignment of the blank? Please explain I've never heard of it.