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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 523151, member: 16510&quot;]I know there are other posts, threads on learning doublED dies but as many questions as we get on here and as much confusion as there is each day on eBay I feel a frank, not to technical thread is in order.</p><p>With this thread I will not go into the die making process in depth because I believe it is too much information for the beginner - </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>1.&nbsp; A doublED die is just that, a doublED, (not double) die.&nbsp; It is a die that has been hubbed or distorted in a manner during hubbing that results in devices, numbering, lettering or images on portions of that die that have been doublED, tripled, etc. - at this point a doublED die is independent of any coins it may strike.&nbsp; It is a doublED die first, then the coins it may strike are called doublED die coins from that die.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>2.&nbsp; A doublED die is not a double strike, ejection strike, machine doubling, mechanically doubled or shift struck coin.&nbsp; Doubling on any coin &quot;does not a doublED die make&quot;!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>3.&nbsp; The majority of DoublED dies are closer than most people can even see that are new to the hobby.&nbsp; In other words it take some experience to even be able to discern most true doubled dies from coins struck from a normal die.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>4.&nbsp; DoublED die have many characteristics that are common to most forms of true doublED dies.&nbsp; The doubling will have splits in the ends or serifs of letters and or numbers.&nbsp; The doubled images will be close to but slightly ajar of the primary devise.&nbsp; Think juxtapositioned of, slightly on top of but ajar from the underlying images.&nbsp; True doublED dies are generally thick extra design images with both appearing as if they were fully struck up.&nbsp; Also doublED dies will show doubling in a clockwise or counterclockwise or north and south direction as you look across the coins surface.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>5.&nbsp; Except in rare cases true doublED dies will occur only on the obverse or reverse of the coin.&nbsp; There are doubled dies existing in both coins meant for circulation and proofs and in all denominations of US coins.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>6.&nbsp; The largest amount of known doublED dies have been from about 1930 thru 1983 in US coins.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>7.&nbsp; A coin with both a date and mint mark doubled in the same amount or direction prior to about 1990 is almost always a mechanically doubled coin - doublED dies occur during hubbing long before the mint mark was added.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>8.&nbsp; An already rare coin also with a doublED die will generally not enhance it&#039;s value or in other words the &quot;higher numismatic value&quot; a coin has to begin with the less any die variety will add additional value to it.&nbsp; (think 1914-D Lincoln cent with an RPM (re-punched mintmark) - the coin is already valuable to begin with the enhancement of the RPM is next to nothing - people who want that coin want the 14-D regardless of the varieity.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>9.&nbsp; All of the above is not set in stone and there are exceptions to every rule and no ones knows everything - recently a looked at a 1963 guild to error / variety coins - the author stated many thing that has since been found to be not only untrue but completely in error.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>10.&nbsp; AND PERHAPS the most important of all - this area of numismatics is very rewarding but not for everyone.&nbsp; In fact I have met persons who cannot see doubled dies or only the strongest ones.&nbsp; I am not sure why this is but a suspect some kind of spacial difficulty or interpretation of images but several have show this prepencity.&nbsp; Additionally we search a lot of coins - I search most weeks up to 7500 Lincolns.&nbsp; That equates to about 15 hours or more and many weeks I find nothing.&nbsp; On the flip side I have bought proof sets for $11 and sold the Lincoln&#039;s for $2000.&nbsp; I have found dozens of new varieties for the Wexler files and found at least $20,000 to $35,000 worth of die varieties in the past 12 years.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I sure hopes this helps you all,[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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