Doubled die dot cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Nov 10, 2021.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think that this is one of the earliest die states of the variety.
    This is a counter clash there is more than enough evidence to say that the die was lapped too heavily, this coin definitely has PL fields.
    Fun coin to find in the wild.
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    That arch of toning around the date was from a hole in the plastic of the paper flip.

    I would send this one to @Insider for his opinion.
     
  4. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    This 1965 has the most polish lines on the reverse that I have ever seen. What variety do you speak of for your coin? Would the PL fields mean its an SMS variety? DSCN0061_1~2.JPG DSCN0062_1~2.JPG
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This coin doesn't come up often. The doubled die is the second dot to the left of UNUM, just below the E.
    Let me get a better photo.
     
  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Then a little bit of resolution change/ settings, for the obverse.
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I still have plenty more verification needed for this coin. My guess is that the variety is a doubled dot. But, it isn't a Doubled Die.
     
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  9. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Seems they were really working the dies to death in '65, on both our examples lots of polish lines!
     
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  10. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    You might have time to edit the thread title using the thread tool drop down menu at the top of your first post...
     
  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The Variety is well known. I just don't know if these were from SMS or a business strike.
    They had adds out in I believe the numismatic news and other publications looking for this variety back in 65' and later.
     
  12. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Didn't they originally believe that the doubled dot was added by the mint to designate coins struck at the Denver mint?Since all 3 mints struck cents but there were no mintmarks, I believe the story was that the dot was a way for the mint to know which branch struck the coin. That was later disproven.

    If my memory is correct, that coin has a cool back story.
     
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  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The Double dot was popular back in 1965 because the coin albums all had a space for the 1965 D, since they were made/sold prior to the mint removing the MM in 1965.

    After the albums were corrected, the variety became nearly unknown.

    I remember finding one back then, and was very excited, then, boom! no value.
     
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  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    There's an old thread here https://www.cointalk.com/threads/what-does-double-dot-mean.309297/
    I started collecting around 1972. Went to coin club at school, etc. I never heard of these. The hype must have died quickly. I can't even find a good picture of one. I wonder if part of the notion that it was deliberately added by Denver came from the Canadian "dot" coins. I was aware of how valuable their 1936 "dot" cent and dime were practically as soon as I started collecting.
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    In one of the links @Fred Weinberg sold one raw a few years back.
    I was wondering if the one he sold showed the same heavy die clash.
     
  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    From what I have read is that there were a bunch found in Kansas city. And most believed that the bags came from the Denver mint.
    The dealers sold these originally for 20$ to 27$. That was a lot of dough in 65-66.
     
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