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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3226678, member: 112"]One thing that I didn't mention above. While today's TPG grading standards usually result in coins being graded higher by the TPGs than they would be if graded by European dealers and or collectors, when it comes to things like harsh cleaning it's a different story.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is not all uncommon for coins sold and graded by European dealers and collectors, with no mention at all of harsh cleaning, if sent to a TPG come back in Detail slabs labeled as being harshly cleaned. This even happens with many of those graded as FDC by the Europeans, as well as those graded lower than FDC.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen it happen so many times that it seems as if they completely ignore the harsh cleaning or they simply find it acceptable and not worthy of mentioning.</p><p><br /></p><p>And to a degree that's kind of understandable because for literally centuries in Europe, harsh cleaning your coins with a cloth every now and then was considered to be what you were supposed to do with your coins. Granted, it was the same here in the US for many, many years. But then we got our ideas from the Europeans in the first place because when this country was young - they were Europeans !</p><p><br /></p><p>However, it seems the practice of harshly cleaning one's coins is still alive and well in Europe and many simply don't think anything of it. And I'm not saying every single one does it or adheres to those practices when it comes to grading, but a lot of them sure do. Including some of the biggest names there are. So if buying coins from European dealers or collectors, that's something you should be aware of.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3226678, member: 112"]One thing that I didn't mention above. While today's TPG grading standards usually result in coins being graded higher by the TPGs than they would be if graded by European dealers and or collectors, when it comes to things like harsh cleaning it's a different story. It is not all uncommon for coins sold and graded by European dealers and collectors, with no mention at all of harsh cleaning, if sent to a TPG come back in Detail slabs labeled as being harshly cleaned. This even happens with many of those graded as FDC by the Europeans, as well as those graded lower than FDC. I've seen it happen so many times that it seems as if they completely ignore the harsh cleaning or they simply find it acceptable and not worthy of mentioning. And to a degree that's kind of understandable because for literally centuries in Europe, harsh cleaning your coins with a cloth every now and then was considered to be what you were supposed to do with your coins. Granted, it was the same here in the US for many, many years. But then we got our ideas from the Europeans in the first place because when this country was young - they were Europeans ! However, it seems the practice of harshly cleaning one's coins is still alive and well in Europe and many simply don't think anything of it. And I'm not saying every single one does it or adheres to those practices when it comes to grading, but a lot of them sure do. Including some of the biggest names there are. So if buying coins from European dealers or collectors, that's something you should be aware of.[/QUOTE]
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