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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8251003, member: 26430"]<b>EX-DORNY:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>For <i>coins</i>, all I can find are secondary purchases but I do have some of his FPLs from the late 1990s (35, 38-42 and 44-46, 46 being his last; if anybody needs a ref. check, let me know, that's what I collect them for).</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry, not the best pictures (I find literature more difficult to photo than coins, which are hard enough!):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453577[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I recently got these from Ken to add to my collection/small-but-growing-library of dealer lists and catalogs. I do like a good booklet size catalog (Kirk Davis is still going as far as I know), but the full magazine-size ones like this give a lot of space for commentary and photos. For all the benefits of digital publishing and online communities, I still miss this genre of numismatic literature and love to review print dealer lists, new or old.</p><p><br /></p><p>Aside from content and documentation of provenances, they also leave a great record of the history of the market. Interesting thing about these ones: they came out during the transition to the internet, so the commentary sections discuss nearly-forgotten websites like numismatists.com among others (including, if I'm not mistaken, the start of ebay).</p><p><br /></p><p><b>BOARS: </b></p><p><br /></p><p>The style of imagery on Doug's always reminds me of a jack-in-the-box. Or evokes a boar springing from seclusion, arms outstretched. That'd be a very unboarlike thing to do, though, based on my occasional run-ins with javelinas in the American southwest... Keeping with that tangent: I videoed this family, led by the big male, crossing the street on <a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/NTyWHZ5" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://imgur.com/gallery/NTyWHZ5" rel="nofollow">Christmas, 2019</a>. Cuter than one realized boars could be, as a family strolling in the rain with their wee one; but rather terrifying when they get to charging and scrambling all around in a blind panic.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lovely Phokian Bull & Boar obol, [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] ! Hard to find without some porosity or roughness or crystallization. I've got a couple of the "B & B" obol BCD duplicates from Naville (their photo) and was happy to receive his little cutout photos for them too. Here's the better one; different dies, but otherwise similar type to yours I'd say:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453581[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>My favorite Boar is a tiny little thing from Caria, Euromos (AR Hemiobol, 8 mm, 0.50 g, 10 h; type <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=6" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=6" rel="nofollow">HNO 6</a>).</p><p><br /></p><p>I liked the rev. for its more "realistic" style than usual (Zeus Lepsynos, for whom there are remains of a temple in Euromos; as with many Carian fractions recently, some have wondered if it's Hekatomnos, which would be quite something if true, and one of the earliest ruler portraits on a coin, after Tissaphernes).</p><p><br /></p><p>But the boar is what really made me want it. He's really got a lot of character and well-struck for the type. It's very difficult to find one with so much of the design on the flan (this one seems nearly complete, even with the Λ behind the head of Zeus):[ATTACH=full]1453590[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100902" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100902" rel="nofollow">Leu Web Auction 16 (22 May 2021), Lot 1033</a> ; Dr. P. Vogl Coll., acq. E. Beckenbauer, 1984.</p><blockquote><p><font size="4">Does anyone know if this Dr. Peter Vogl is the same as the Vogl (born 1949) who is/was <a href="https://www.professoren.tum.de/en/vogl-peter" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.professoren.tum.de/en/vogl-peter" rel="nofollow">physics professor</a> (emeritus and chair) at Technical University of Munich?</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">Previous P. Vogl collection sales were <i>Helios 5</i> (25 June 2010) [<a href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/catalogs/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/catalogs/" rel="nofollow">per WWE's (@Valentinian 's) annotations</a>, “Highly Desirable/Among the Finest” for 641 RPC]; <i>Naumann Auktion 63</i> (4 March 2018), 1-496 [Vogl Cilician; of the provenances & documentation, Shanna Schmidt <a href="https://archive.org/details/ShannaSchmidt58" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/ShannaSchmidt58" rel="nofollow">Newsletter #58</a> commented “a lot of work went into purchasing these coins”]; and recent <i>Leu auctions</i> (Auc. 4 [53 lots] & mult. Web Aucs. [>590 so far]). [WWE also has Hess 257 (11/86) described as Vogl's RPC, but I suspect it's a copy/paste error.]</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><b>TETRICUS: </b></p><p><br /></p><p>The parallel discussion of reverse brockages, where <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/8249533/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/8249533/">Doug posted his Tetricus brockages</a> and mentioned selling the rest, reminded me of 1-2 ex-Doug Tetricus AEs included in an <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511262" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511262" rel="nofollow">AMCC 2 "pick-bin" group lot (484)</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Auction photo, cropped to show "Tetricus I antoninianus, Salus, RIC 126; Tetricus II unofficial (“barbarous”) antoninianus":</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453604[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The consignor was unnamed for another <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511295" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511295" rel="nofollow">AMCC 2 "pick-bin" lot (517)</a>, part of which is below, again edited from the auction photo.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm embarrassed to say I have yet to individually catalog or photo the Tetricus I (x8) & II (x1). (I was after the 8 "Later" Roman Bronze Coins, incl. a rare var. Crispus, and common emperor-dragging-captive & fallen-horsemen AE3/4s.)</p><p><br /></p><p>As a neophyte to the <i>Tetrici</i>, these seemed great for a starter group (interesting, attractive, varied types); I hope I'll soon get around to learning some more of the Tetrici in the process of cataloging them! Not sure what's going on with the first two reverses, they look interesting... Also really like the way that SPES PVBLICA is portrayed in the fourth one (top right).</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453611[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Back to Dorney:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>As it turns out, one of my AMCC 2 "pick-bin" wins was a Septimius Severus denarius ex-Dorney, with flip (Inventory # 3183, purchased ca. 2016, per vcoins archive). <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511230" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511230" rel="nofollow">Lot 452</a> (Rome mint, VICT PART MAX, RIC 295). Surprising amount of flatness in the central reverse for everything else being relatively crisp:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453638[/ATTACH] </p><p>Ok, sorry -- I guess that's what one calls "the sprawl"! (For those who watched True Detective.)</p><p>[ATTACH]1453636[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8251003, member: 26430"][B]EX-DORNY:[/B] For [I]coins[/I], all I can find are secondary purchases but I do have some of his FPLs from the late 1990s (35, 38-42 and 44-46, 46 being his last; if anybody needs a ref. check, let me know, that's what I collect them for). Sorry, not the best pictures (I find literature more difficult to photo than coins, which are hard enough!): [ATTACH=full]1453577[/ATTACH] I recently got these from Ken to add to my collection/small-but-growing-library of dealer lists and catalogs. I do like a good booklet size catalog (Kirk Davis is still going as far as I know), but the full magazine-size ones like this give a lot of space for commentary and photos. For all the benefits of digital publishing and online communities, I still miss this genre of numismatic literature and love to review print dealer lists, new or old. Aside from content and documentation of provenances, they also leave a great record of the history of the market. Interesting thing about these ones: they came out during the transition to the internet, so the commentary sections discuss nearly-forgotten websites like numismatists.com among others (including, if I'm not mistaken, the start of ebay). [B]BOARS: [/B] The style of imagery on Doug's always reminds me of a jack-in-the-box. Or evokes a boar springing from seclusion, arms outstretched. That'd be a very unboarlike thing to do, though, based on my occasional run-ins with javelinas in the American southwest... Keeping with that tangent: I videoed this family, led by the big male, crossing the street on [URL='https://imgur.com/gallery/NTyWHZ5']Christmas, 2019[/URL]. Cuter than one realized boars could be, as a family strolling in the rain with their wee one; but rather terrifying when they get to charging and scrambling all around in a blind panic. A lovely Phokian Bull & Boar obol, [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] ! Hard to find without some porosity or roughness or crystallization. I've got a couple of the "B & B" obol BCD duplicates from Naville (their photo) and was happy to receive his little cutout photos for them too. Here's the better one; different dies, but otherwise similar type to yours I'd say: [ATTACH=full]1453581[/ATTACH] My favorite Boar is a tiny little thing from Caria, Euromos (AR Hemiobol, 8 mm, 0.50 g, 10 h; type [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=6']HNO 6[/URL]). I liked the rev. for its more "realistic" style than usual (Zeus Lepsynos, for whom there are remains of a temple in Euromos; as with many Carian fractions recently, some have wondered if it's Hekatomnos, which would be quite something if true, and one of the earliest ruler portraits on a coin, after Tissaphernes). But the boar is what really made me want it. He's really got a lot of character and well-struck for the type. It's very difficult to find one with so much of the design on the flan (this one seems nearly complete, even with the Λ behind the head of Zeus):[ATTACH=full]1453590[/ATTACH] [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100902']Leu Web Auction 16 (22 May 2021), Lot 1033[/URL] ; Dr. P. Vogl Coll., acq. E. Beckenbauer, 1984. [INDENT][SIZE=4]Does anyone know if this Dr. Peter Vogl is the same as the Vogl (born 1949) who is/was [URL='https://www.professoren.tum.de/en/vogl-peter']physics professor[/URL] (emeritus and chair) at Technical University of Munich? Previous P. Vogl collection sales were [I]Helios 5[/I] (25 June 2010) [[URL='http://augustuscoins.com/ed/catalogs/']per WWE's (@Valentinian 's) annotations[/URL], “Highly Desirable/Among the Finest” for 641 RPC]; [I]Naumann Auktion 63[/I] (4 March 2018), 1-496 [Vogl Cilician; of the provenances & documentation, Shanna Schmidt [URL='https://archive.org/details/ShannaSchmidt58']Newsletter #58[/URL] commented “a lot of work went into purchasing these coins”]; and recent [I]Leu auctions[/I] (Auc. 4 [53 lots] & mult. Web Aucs. [>590 so far]). [WWE also has Hess 257 (11/86) described as Vogl's RPC, but I suspect it's a copy/paste error.][/SIZE][/INDENT] [B]TETRICUS: [/B] The parallel discussion of reverse brockages, where [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/8249533/']Doug posted his Tetricus brockages[/URL] and mentioned selling the rest, reminded me of 1-2 ex-Doug Tetricus AEs included in an [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511262']AMCC 2 "pick-bin" group lot (484)[/URL]. Auction photo, cropped to show "Tetricus I antoninianus, Salus, RIC 126; Tetricus II unofficial (“barbarous”) antoninianus": [ATTACH=full]1453604[/ATTACH] The consignor was unnamed for another [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511295']AMCC 2 "pick-bin" lot (517)[/URL], part of which is below, again edited from the auction photo. I'm embarrassed to say I have yet to individually catalog or photo the Tetricus I (x8) & II (x1). (I was after the 8 "Later" Roman Bronze Coins, incl. a rare var. Crispus, and common emperor-dragging-captive & fallen-horsemen AE3/4s.) As a neophyte to the [I]Tetrici[/I], these seemed great for a starter group (interesting, attractive, varied types); I hope I'll soon get around to learning some more of the Tetrici in the process of cataloging them! Not sure what's going on with the first two reverses, they look interesting... Also really like the way that SPES PVBLICA is portrayed in the fourth one (top right). [ATTACH=full]1453611[/ATTACH] [B]Back to Dorney:[/B] As it turns out, one of my AMCC 2 "pick-bin" wins was a Septimius Severus denarius ex-Dorney, with flip (Inventory # 3183, purchased ca. 2016, per vcoins archive). [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511230']Lot 452[/URL] (Rome mint, VICT PART MAX, RIC 295). Surprising amount of flatness in the central reverse for everything else being relatively crisp: [ATTACH=full]1453638[/ATTACH] Ok, sorry -- I guess that's what one calls "the sprawl"! (For those who watched True Detective.) [ATTACH]1453636[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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