Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mammothtooth, Sep 27, 2022.
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FurryFrog got mad over a profile picture. Miss him but the consequence fit the transgression.
Some folks left because they assumed he was baited when it simply was not so.
Furryfrog is still around on the inter webs though. He is on Reddit with his coin stuff. I don't use that site but there is a decent coin-munity there. A few users here have his email if you need to reach out about something.
NumisForums, including a lot of familiar faces like @stevex6 who were banned over the years. It's now much more active than the ancients forum here.
This did however afford me the opportunity to look at it with fresh & unbiased eyes
It did make me wonder if the initial action was a deliberate attempt to instigate an Exodus
The forum popped up after the "exodus" as both banned members and others who largely have wanted a new place to congregate for a while got together. After some discussion about what was best to do next, NumisForums was the result, but realistically it's been a long time coming. Many people were fed up with mod decisions here for various reasons.
In my own view there was never any attempt by the moderators here to actually listen to feedback from members of the ancients forum and even worse than that one of the admins actually slandered a former member in a group discussion when several of us asked for him to be unbanned. The fact that there would be an event that would cause a mass exodus sooner or later should have been obvious. I'm surprised it took as long as it did.
I was also on a bit of a hiatus during that time, so didn't get the full picture. But, from what I've been able to gather: A group of childish people became emotionally destabilized when another childish person used a Confederate Battle Flag in their avatar.
If modern American politics has taught us anything, it is that confrontations between groups of childish people are never productive.
It kind of sucks that the forum isn't as active as it used to be, but honestly, I don't really miss those that took off. They tended to take the hobby a bit too seriously as a whole, which isn't really a problem except that they were judgmental toward others for not living up to their standards. I won't get into specifics, but they also displayed some hero-worshipping tendencies to a degree that was kinda cringey.
I am not surprised by it since remember, the incoming of the group at large was from ANOTHER forum they left en masse. So I kind of expected them to be here for a while and then again jump ship for another location at some point. Regarding the avatar in question, I weighed in at the time how a battle flag to a war veteran like me is unrelated to politics, but my view was also ignored. So, in my mind, both sides were not listening to the other.
I am on here some, on reddit some, and Numisforums some. Problem is I have many numismatic pursuits and interests, so Numisforums is mainly ancients, reddit is full of lots of newbies but some very serious members, (for good and bad, I got chewed out for not recognizing an unusual large RR bronze I had not seen before and the OP did not state it was from an old collection, I assumed like most I have seen it was a fake), and CT seems to fit my varied interest better. All have good and bad aspects, and maybe I am old and set in my ways but just prefer it here. Plus, how can I be away from buddies like @-jeffB, @Randy Abercrombie, etc?
@red_spork and am on the other site posting.
I too was surprised that it took so long for folks to set up their own site when they clearly didn't like the way things were done here.
HOW it happened is what caught my attention, not Why
There seems to be a lot of anger between Americans right now and it is unfortunately spilling over into places it should not be.
PLEASE don't think i am defending CT in any way, the admin should be ashamed of themselves. ( the opposite is most likely closer to the truth )
What followed was a hot mess and i am so glad that i was on a break from the interweb when it kicked off.
So, do you understand THEIR OWN RULES? I actually thought they were pretty consistent.
And, how can you consistently apply rules like this when no two individuals will ever fully agree on the definition of "political"? It varies from person to person, but in extreme cases the definition of this word has morphed into something like, "Anything that upsets any person to any degree". This type of definition can be leveraged to include just about any statement of opinion or expression that a person could possibly make.
The consequence of over-enforcing these types of rules would be a forum where all opinions, criticisms, or truth seeking would be eliminated. If that is the case, then the value of the forum is narrowed to the point of uselessness.
The consequence of under-enforcing these types of rules would be threads so bogged down with pornography, racism, misogyny, and threats of violence that the forums would also be rendered useless.
The fact that we are somewhat comfortably between these two extremes is an indication that the moderators are generally doing things correctly.
that's interesting about FurryFrog.
V Bellman got ejected from a profile picture someone else was using of his. and VB got way too irate per mods ... or something like that.
Bing, I really hope that you and your neighbors have little more than water logged lawns to contend with.
I hear ya, but every locale has issues. Want to trade me FL hurricanes for MN -30 actual temps, (plus wind chill)?
I am looking around where to retire to, (doubt it will be MN if just for taxes), and am still unsure.
Don't bother looking in CA.
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