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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marsyas Mike, post: 7331711, member: 85693&quot;]Just got in a lot of 11 pitiful ancients, and I am bringing back this thread because I just got an example of the OP and there are very few examples out there, RC&#039;s OP being by far the best one I could find.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>There have been a couple of informative threads on the wide variance in sizes for the Severan as and dupondius and I think my poor specimen compared with the OP is a good example.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Despite the size - both weight and dimension, I believe mine is a dupondius.&nbsp; These are my reasons:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Color:</b>&nbsp; mine has suffered a harsh cleaning, revealing the base metal in many places.&nbsp; It is very brassy.&nbsp; Below is a comparison with a Caligula copper as from the same lot.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Weight:</b>&nbsp; OCRE lists RIC 844 separately as an as and dupondius.&nbsp; For each listing, there is only one example, with the sizes of these two as follows: </p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><b>Dupondius:</b>&nbsp; 8.76 grams&nbsp; 24 mm.</p><p><b>As:</b>&nbsp; 8.22 grams / 25 mm.&nbsp; </p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=deity_facet%3A%22Fecunditas%22+AND+%28denomination_facet%3A%22As%22+OR+denomination_facet%3A%22Dupondius%22%29+AND+portrait_facet%3A%22Julia+Domna%22" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=deity_facet%3A%22Fecunditas%22+AND+%28denomination_facet%3A%22As%22+OR+denomination_facet%3A%22Dupondius%22%29+AND+portrait_facet%3A%22Julia+Domna%22" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=deity_facet:&quot;Fecunditas&quot;+AND+(denomination_facet:&quot;As&quot;+OR+denomination_facet:&quot;Dupondius&quot;)+AND+portrait_facet:&quot;Julia+Domna&quot;</a></p><p><br /></p><p>On OCRE, the as is actually larger in diameter and only .54 grams lighter.&nbsp; The dupondius version has the SC in the fields, not exergue, which leads me to believe it is an error.&nbsp; The examples are pretty poor, so I can&#039;t really decipher much of them.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s mine - not a die match to RC&#039;s, but the portrait shares some similarities perhaps: </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1280587[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Julia Domna&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Æ Dupondius (or brassy As?)</b></p><p><b>(193-194 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Rome Mint</b></p><p>IVLIA DOM[NA AVG], draped bareheaded bust right / FEC[VNDITAS], SC in exergue, Fecunditas seated right nursing child, second child standing before her.</p><p>RIC 844; BMCRE 494.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>(7.87 grams / 22 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s a color-comparison with a Caligula as that came in the same lot (note the size difference after 180 or so years) - copper vs. brass:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1280588[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>That Caligula as is the only coin I own that can stand up on its side.&nbsp; Two areas of the edge have been hammered flat.&nbsp; What a beauty!&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":vomit:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1280586[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>In the same lot came anther Julia Domna, this one a provincial from Serdica (nearly full reverse legends!).&nbsp; I cannot find an attribution for it - Hera on the reverse with longer legend in this size just isn&#039;t coming up anywhere.&nbsp; Guidance from a Thrace expert appreciated.&nbsp; </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1280589[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>Julia Domna&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Æ 28</b></p><p><b>(193-217 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Serdica, Thrace</b></p><p>[IOYΛI]A ΔO[MN]A CEB[A], draped bust right (with stephane?) / OYΛΠIAC CEPΔIKHC, Hera</p><p>standing facing, head left, holding patera and scepter.</p><p>(14.61 grams / 28 x 26 mm)</p><p><b>Attribution Notes:</b></p><p>I could not find an example of this; similar to Varbanov 1994 but this is smaller (about 25 mm and 9 grams) with a shorter reverse legend (CEΡΔΩN). </p><p><br /></p><p>These all came from a very ugly lot on eBay. It was $11 for 11 ancients, the kind of &quot;bargain&quot; I am a sucker for - and I wanted that Domna as/dupondius.&nbsp; Below is the whole grubby lot - the bottom far right is not ancient - a worn slick hal&#039;penny of some sort (Rosa Americana maybe?).&nbsp;&nbsp; The whole bottom row I&#039;ve written off as unattributable except for the Byzantine Anonymous follis which is going in the junk bin.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The top row shows the pick of the litter.&nbsp; The one in the middle is a Byzantine follis for Constans II from Syracuse which isn&#039;t too much of a disaster.&nbsp; Next to it on the right is a Constantius II FEL TEMP from Thessalonica that had just enough left to secure an attribution, barely.&nbsp; Two Domnas and a Caligula that stands up! </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1280592[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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