Does your local dealer charge tax?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Fall Guy, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    If paying cash, does your local coin dealer charge tax? I just moved a couple of months ago and 2 of my former dealers wouldn't charge me tax if paying cash. The one where I live now does. Just curious what other dealers are doing.
     
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  3. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    When they follow the law, they charge tax....

    I know some who do both, but they are suppose to charge tax. The ones who don't usually do a lot of under the table business or they already have it included in their prices.
     
  4. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Yes...and he gives me 2 dollar bills crisp in my change. A very odd man
     
  5. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Mine only charges tax on items like 2x2s. It must be a different law by state. They clearly tell you that there's no tax on coins.
     
  6. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    If I pay in cash there is no tax, but with credit card. Yes, so far I have not made any purchases with my CC.
     
  7. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    It does depend on the state, I should have included that.
     
  8. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    I think in Florida, at least i was told invoices over 2,500 are tax exempt...
     
  9. coinguy-matthew

    coinguy-matthew Ike Crazy

    Not in New Hampshire.
     
  10. Copper Head

    Copper Head Active Member

    The law in Texas is to charge sales tax for sales less than $1,000 and I have been charged that when paying cash. Of course, these days it doesn't take much to go over $1,000.
     
  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I'm required to charge sales tax to Indiana residents on all transactions.
     
  12. coinmaniac14

    coinmaniac14 Member

    Same in Massachusetts.
     
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    It depends on the state, and even what kinds of coins you are buying within the state for some.

    Btw, in any state if you know the item is taxable and they are not charging tax, they are breaking the law. Every state in the country that has sales tax makes it illegal to include sales tax in the sales price. The reason for this is two fold. One, a sales tax is a charge on the consumer, if the vendor includes it in the sale then it becomes an expense for him, making the tax illegal. Two, if a dealer includes it in the sales price its not as auditable. So, there never is an excuse if he is not collecting a tax, it is always illegal if that item is taxable.
     
  14. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    Anyone know the specific nj law?
     
  15. coinguy-matthew

    coinguy-matthew Ike Crazy

    Is there a tax on the internet?
     
  16. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    I think so...If its an official invoice. Who's to go around hunting PP gifts though :)
     
  17. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    If you buy on the internet, and the company does not have nexus (physical presence) in your state, they are not required by Federal law to collect sales taxes. However, if you live in a state with a sales tax technically you owe use tax on the purchase, which you are supposed to pay directly to the state.
     
  18. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    In California, the way the sales tax law is written, the seller is required to pay the sales tax. IF the seller chooses to pass that cost on to the customer he can, but seller is responsible regardless. It is generally accepted that the seller is going to pass that cost on to the customer, but it is not required. And although it is easiest if you list it separately, it can be included in the price as long as it is posted on the invoice or at the place of business that tax will be included.

    Oh and to answer the OP, when paying with a credit card or check every local shop I go to charges tax. When paying cash it's about 50-50
     
  19. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Different states, different laws. I called one dealer trying to charge sales tax on coins because another dealer told me that it was not legal for WA to tax coins. Supplies yes, coins no.
     
  20. 1970 Silver Art

    1970 Silver Art Silver Art Bar Collector

    Does my dealer charge a sales tax? For me, it depends on the dealer and it depends on the state that the dealer is located in. For example, Tennessee charges anywhere from 8.50% to 9.75 sales tax on bullion purchases depending on what TN county that the dealer is physically located in. There is one local TN dealer that I know that does not charge a sales tax for bullion purchases but this dealer usually does not get many silver art bars in his shop and I end up rarely buying anything there. The other local TN dealers do charge a sales tax. As far as I know, in Alabama, there is a 9.00% sales tax on bullion purchases there. In Georgia, there is no sales tax on any bullion purchases.
     
  21. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    I can only say what it is in Pennsylvania. In PA coins (I'm sure) and bullion (I think) are not taxable. Paper currency, I believe, is taxable on the amount over the face value of the bill (ie- buy a $1 silver certifcate for $3, you pay 6% of $2) although I'm not sure how well this is enforced. Cash or credit purchases are no different. Although "under the table" buys may not be taxed (by the seller, not by law) so he can save some money and paperwork, it's not legal here. As to the internet purchases, PA will require sales tax be collected on taxable items purchased from a vendor who has any type of physical presence in the state, regardless of where the actual physical transaction took place, and do require you report purchases from outside the state on your tax return, but again, this is probably dificult to enforce when the purchase was made outside the state. It's all about the paper trail.

    http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/pubs/sales/su4.pdf

    For New Jersey's sale tax laws.
     
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