Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Hazmatt, Dec 6, 2019.
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What coins are they? Care to show any pictures?
Assuming two or more coins with the same date & mintmark are found:
Is a clash considered an error or a variety?
Is a cud considered an error or a variety?
Actually, neither. They are simply examples of a particular die state.
Many, upon cursory review may think two anomalies are the "same" .. or "similar" when in fact they are "different" although "just kinda similar looking".
The first step is to differentiate whether it is an "anomaly" or simple "damage".
Not that I disagree with you, but why are there die clashes on Morgan Dollars listed in the CPG?
The same reasin the 1937-D 3-legged Buffalo is listed. Demand.
Would you say coincidence if I found a third but this third one is black with gold tinting on obverse,, I'm going to call it dumb luck but I do recall getting them all from the liquor store a block from my house
The misses has collected stamps with her father since she was 5 years old and she always seems to know all the right questions to ask, she's a natural at getting every bit of information about any subject
Generally it depends on the origin of the anomaly. Whether the anomaly is attributed to the die manufacturing process (a variety) or the coin manufacturing process (an error). But in the same realm of rules such as "i" before "e" except after "c" there are exception to the rule.
I'll add that there are hybrids like transitional cents (CAMs/WAMs) where the wrong pairing of a properly manufactured die contributed to a variety.
Then the question arises as to whether something such as this is better classified as a type.
Unless you are being punny, the word in modern American is "missus" and is colloquial for the easily misunderstood, "mistress": Mrs. (The older form, "missis" is rare in American writing.). It is not a big deal, but we like to use words like "cent" and "penny" correctly. We grant that you miss her when she is gone, just as she misses you when you are off at coin shows.
Unless he's using the plural. Miss is an address for a girl (although not PC anymore). The misses would be plural. So maybe they were all curious and asked him a question?
I guess we would have to go back to the word anomaly. Exactly what is this anomaly? Could you provide pics? If not an error/variety any given die could produce thousands of anomalies, all the same. These could be the result of a worn die and include mechanical doubling, machine doubling, ejection doubling, die cracks and chips and a host of other problem coins that someone might consider off or not right when looking at a well struck coin that does not have the anomaly . It would also depend on who finds them where. Or, in other words, where were these distributed to, what area of the country. I had a box of Loomis wrapped 2009 P Lincoln cents, Professional Life that yielded 8 rolls of WDDR-030. This was a discovery coin attributed to myself by Wexler and so far these are the only coins that are known. Could be the luck of the draw for me as there are still countless boxes that have not yet been opened so there may be more, there may not be. Will not know until I see others for sale or they end up being passed back into circulation. And I found mine 9 years after they were issued.
It's doubtful that you have all of the population for WDDR-030 and Wexler attributes various Stages to different folks. It's important to note that for minor varieties, often times folks don't do much with them. I keep all my unattributed doubled dies in the hopes that someone might one day.
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