Does This Look Like An Unloved Proof?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by 1934 Wreath Crown, May 28, 2020.

  1. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    It wasn't described as a proof when I bought it many years ago. But as I'm trying to clear a lot of my old purchases, I took a good look at this particular Crown and I feel it could be a proof version with a mintage of 1,084? Albeit an unloved one.:(

    There's definitely a lot of glare from the light which is not similar to any business strike. Do any of you see the same or am I just willing it to be a proof Crown?

    Just took some hurried shots with my phone.
    1887 Victoria Crown Obv.jpg
    1887 Victoria Crown Obv2.jpg

    1887 Victoria Crown Rev.jpg

    1887 Victoria Crown Rev2.jpg
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Hard to tell for sure based on the pictures. It certainly does look like a lot of reflection/glare coming from the surfaces. They just aren't in focus enough for me to tell for sure.
    Man, I love British Crowns. Not super fond of this Victoria portrait...but the over all design is beautiful.
  4. Kentucky

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    Would proofs of this vintage also have the squared off edge that modern ones have?
  5. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    I agree with the bit about edges not looking right. If interested will post my 1887 proof as it does not look like this. There were many PL coins of all silver denominations struck during this period. Sorry to say I vote not proof.
  6. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    So are you saying its a fake?

    Here is a high def. photo of a much higher graded proof for comparison


  7. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    That, I think. It doesn't look sharp enough for a proof to me.
  8. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Not a fake, simply PL. Yes, like the proof you just showed! Mine I got from Baldwins auction years ago and will post later today.
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  9. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Ah, waiting for son to get going....The wonderful blue iridescence does not show through, but it does also show the edges and crispness of strike, especially the reverse: fullsizeoutput_1a32.jpeg fullsizeoutput_1a44.jpeg fullsizeoutput_1a3d.jpeg
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  10. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    Yes that's a lovely example @7Jags but to be fair, both the example i posted and your coin are mint state possibly PF64 or higher whereas the one I've got has been circularised. The lace on QV's veil behind her ear, is well worn.

    I'll take a PL as I don't remember paying very much for it.;)
  11. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Thanks, and I agree. TBH, I love these big crowns; I tried to get the Widow head by regnal year but trying to find decent specimens of some is rather difficult.
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