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Message:: [QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1690494, member: 29643"]I saw the following on eBay as "DMPL" MS-63. At first I was thinking "Wow, that's definitely cleaned." Which was followed by "Why would the seller think that's DMPL?" Then I saw the original holder tag showing $50,000! <a href="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/00/s/NTI4WDQ5NQ==/z/1OUAAMXQJRhRaZuI/$T2eC16J,!)kE9s4Z-5cuBR,ZuIjft!~~60_3.JPG" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/00/s/NTI4WDQ5NQ==/z/1OUAAMXQJRhRaZuI/$T2eC16J,!)kE9s4Z-5cuBR,ZuIjft!~~60_3.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://i.ebayimg.com/t/00/s/NTI4WDQ5NQ==/z/1OUAAMXQJRhRaZuI/$T2eC16J,!)kE9s4Z-5cuBR,ZuIjft!~~60_3.JPG</a><a href="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/00/s/NTA5WDQ5NQ==/z/OkwAAMXQnXFRaZuL/$T2eC16V,!zUE9s38+!Z6BR,ZuLZ9OQ~~60_3.JPG" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/00/s/NTA5WDQ5NQ==/z/OkwAAMXQnXFRaZuL/$T2eC16V,!zUE9s38+!Z6BR,ZuLZ9OQ~~60_3.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://i.ebayimg.com/t/00/s/NTA5WDQ5NQ==/z/OkwAAMXQnXFRaZuL/$T2eC16V,!zUE9s38+!Z6BR,ZuLZ9OQ~~60_3.JPG</a> Now, am I missing something or would this get a details (for starters) and possibly even AU due to the wear on the hair? Without the scratches, I'm thinking the back would be PL MS-63 and the front would be AU-55/58. Even with net grading, isn't that the technical definition of a "slider" (MS-61?) coin?[/QUOTE]