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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 1882907, member: 15309&quot;]Evidence would be you providing a link to an article that anyone of those industry leaders wrote that supports your claim.&nbsp; Your paraphrasing of a Laura Sperber article is not in any way evidence.&nbsp; Futhermore, I read all of Laura&#039;s reports and for the most part they have very little to do with gradeflation or overgrading.&nbsp; In fact, I can think of no other major dealer who is more proud of obtaining high grades from PCGS for the ultra rarities that she handles.&nbsp; Every coin offered by Legend is CAC approved and every coin is &quot;super high end&quot; for the assigned grade.&nbsp; Part of their marketing strategy is to hype their coins while casting doubt on the coins handled by any high end firm.&nbsp; Go ahead, try to dispute that!</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you are going to quote me, then do it right.&nbsp; I said there are explanations for the &quot;<b>apparent loosening</b>&quot; of grading standards.&nbsp; That means that they didn&#039;t actually loosen their standards, but it appears that they did. </p><p><br /></p><p>Gradeflation is real, and is a problem.&nbsp; My view on the cause of gradeflation is well known; it is directly related to the subjectivity inherent in grading.&nbsp; Your opinion (not fact) on the subject is that the TPGs have DELIBERATELY LOOSENED their grading standards.&nbsp; However, you have never provided evidence that this has actually happened.&nbsp; All you have done is leave a long trail of conjecture and misinformation on the subject.&nbsp; You claim that all of these other people agree with you but never provide any proof that they actually agree with you.&nbsp; Since you referenced an article by Laura Sperber, why don&#039;t you provide a link to what she actually wrote, rather than forcing us to swallow your interpretation of her comments.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you remember when I said that you do things to intentionally damage the credibility of those you challenge you on this forum?&nbsp; Including a paragraph in your post claiming that I don&#039;t have an open mind that prohibits me from accepting or understanding the view of others is exactly that.&nbsp; It is my sincere hope that the members of this forum will recognize that comment for what it is, a low brow tactic employed by a desperate individual.&nbsp; It is ironic because you are the most closed minded person I have ever encountered on any internet forum.&nbsp; And yes, that includes people like TomCorona and the other loons over on the PRWE forum.</p><p><br /></p><p>With regards to the CAC issue, I would expect that there are more coins that don&#039;t sticker than do sticker.&nbsp; That is the entire point of the CAC, to separate the good for the grade from the low end coins that resulted from gradeflation.&nbsp; But that does not inherently mean that the coins are overgraded, and JA admits this on his website.&nbsp; Now Doug, pay attention.&nbsp; I am going to quote John Albanese and provide a link to the source that I quoted.&nbsp; This is how things are done in the real world, maybe you should give this a try sometime.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.caccoin.com/faqs/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.caccoin.com/faqs/" rel="nofollow">CAC FAQs</a></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><b>3. If a coin doesn’t receive a CAC sticker, does this mean CAC believes the coin is over-graded?</b></span></font></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Absolutely not. There are many coins that are certified accurately for their grade. Unfortunately, it is an inescapable reality that many are at the lower end of the quality range for the assigned grade. CAC’s rejection of a coin does not necessarily mean that CAC believes the coin has been over-graded. It simply means that there are other coins with CAC stickers that are of higher quality for the grade. CAC will eventually reject tens of thousands of accurately graded coins. Many of these rejected coins will be acceptable to numerous dealers and collectors and will continue to be available in the marketplace. For quality-conscious collectors and dealers, a coin with a CAC sticker will have significant meaning.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>But your post is very telling Doug.&nbsp; You asked me and I quote:&nbsp; &quot;And if they didn&#039;t get that green bean then those coins were over-graded by the TPGs - weren&#039;t they ?&quot;&nbsp; The answer is NO, they were not overgraded and you don&#039;t need to accept it from me, simply read JA&#039;s answer to that question shown above.&nbsp; You seem to pride yourself on reading articles by industry leaders but you have never even read the CAC website.&nbsp; Hmmm...interesting.&nbsp; The fact is Doug that I read 3 coin forums, the Numismatist, and other coin related press releases on a regular basis.&nbsp; There are plenty of times that I disagree with something written by someone in the coin world.&nbsp; That said, very few of the important people in the coin world are active on the coin forums.&nbsp; So please don&#039;t take the fact that I disagree with you personally, you are here, they are not.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems that all of this is just a diversionary discussion.&nbsp; This all spawned from my comment that your grading methods place you in the &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; with regards to grading.&nbsp; When you are forced to admit that even the people who think many coins are overgraded also don&#039;t subscribe to your grading methods, that is tantamount to an admission that you are indeed the &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; of grading.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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