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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1879033, member: 112"]Yeah, that's what the designation is supposed to be about, basically all special designations are the same in that regard. Problem is all of the special designations are really meaningless as an indicator of quality of strike. </p><p><br /></p><p>You can't use one tiny area of a coin as an indicator of quality of strike. Quality of strike can only be judged in any meaningful way based on the coin as whole. This method follows one of the basic tenets of grading, that being that basically the entire mintage of certain date/mint combinations are known for being weakly struck. And because of that those certain date/mint combinations are graded differently than other date/mint combinations of the same series.</p><p><br /></p><p>With nickels, and not just Jeffs, most of them are known for being weakly struck for several reasons as already mentioned. And on top of that there are also certain date/mint combinations that are known for being more weakly struck than usual for the series. When you know the series and you become familiar with these things then it is easier to judge a coin with a better strike than usual. But one tiny area won't cut it.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are too many coins that are given the special designations when that one tiny area is struck up, but the rest of the coin is even more weakly struck than normal for the series. I've seen plenty of FS nickels where you can't even see some of the windows on Monticello let alone the other details. So calling one of those coins "better struck" because you can see most, not even all, of the steps when the rest of the coin is weak pretty much everywhere else (kinda like the one that started this thread) is a joke. But yet people buy the idea of the special designations, they go for it and eat it up like candy. They even pay premiums for that candy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Meanwhile coins where you can see the windows, the portico, and sometimes even some of the railing details, coins that actually have better strikes than usual but not full steps, and even better detail on the obv, they languish, most ignore them.</p><p><br /></p><p>But hey, don't listen to me, after all, as was said in another thread - I'm on the "lunatic fringe" because I don't agree or go along with ideas that others buy into <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1879033, member: 112"]Yeah, that's what the designation is supposed to be about, basically all special designations are the same in that regard. Problem is all of the special designations are really meaningless as an indicator of quality of strike. You can't use one tiny area of a coin as an indicator of quality of strike. Quality of strike can only be judged in any meaningful way based on the coin as whole. This method follows one of the basic tenets of grading, that being that basically the entire mintage of certain date/mint combinations are known for being weakly struck. And because of that those certain date/mint combinations are graded differently than other date/mint combinations of the same series. With nickels, and not just Jeffs, most of them are known for being weakly struck for several reasons as already mentioned. And on top of that there are also certain date/mint combinations that are known for being more weakly struck than usual for the series. When you know the series and you become familiar with these things then it is easier to judge a coin with a better strike than usual. But one tiny area won't cut it. There are too many coins that are given the special designations when that one tiny area is struck up, but the rest of the coin is even more weakly struck than normal for the series. I've seen plenty of FS nickels where you can't even see some of the windows on Monticello let alone the other details. So calling one of those coins "better struck" because you can see most, not even all, of the steps when the rest of the coin is weak pretty much everywhere else (kinda like the one that started this thread) is a joke. But yet people buy the idea of the special designations, they go for it and eat it up like candy. They even pay premiums for that candy. Meanwhile coins where you can see the windows, the portico, and sometimes even some of the railing details, coins that actually have better strikes than usual but not full steps, and even better detail on the obv, they languish, most ignore them. But hey, don't listen to me, after all, as was said in another thread - I'm on the "lunatic fringe" because I don't agree or go along with ideas that others buy into :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
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