Does this coin possess squared off rims?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by James R, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. James R

    James R Member

    Found a really well struck 1909 it’s pretty thick. Looking for opinions.
     

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  3. James R

    James R Member

    Seems thicker than usual.
     

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    That Cent looks off for some reason.
    Where did you find it?
    Can you lay it flat on both sides. And can we see the VDB initials?
     
  5. James R

    James R Member

    ?
     

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  6. James R

    James R Member

    Yes I can, and yes it does seem off. It’s very thick.
     
  7. James R

    James R Member

    Flat
     

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  8. James R

    James R Member

    It almost looks like a little dish.the surface is strange to me too, like dotted.
     

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  9. James R

    James R Member

    I found it at a shop in Pennsylvania
     
  10. James R

    James R Member

    Is it clear enough? It’s more of a wire rim on the obverse at the top, but look how deep the strike is.
     
  11. James R

    James R Member

    Deep
     

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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Always show your coins on a flat surface. Don't hold them. You were covering the VDB initials in your first pictures.

    There are known counterfeits. So now a person with better knowledge can look at it and give you a better answer. Maybe @ldhair ?
     
  13. James R

    James R Member

    It’s like a little chunk
     
  14. James R

    James R Member

    That would be amazing. Would he be open to the idea of considering taking a look at it? From now on I will take my pics from a flat surface that’s good advice. It eliminates glare and any alternating effect.
     
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  15. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Be patient. Many members are still sleeping. Too early in the morning. There are very few early birds at this time.
     
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  16. James R

    James R Member

    A couple more. It looks like there is an extra layer on the rim compared to another wheat penny. The 1909 is on the right.
     

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  17. James R

    James R Member

    Okay gotcha. Do more pictures help?
     

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  18. James R

    James R Member

    I might be wrong but it looks like the rim did not endure the normal tumbling process.
     

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  19. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    There are 2 types of Rims.. Square and rounded. One type on proof coins and the other for business strike.

    Like I said.. Just wait for others to chime in. Be patient.
     
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I believe the coin is just a well struck business strike. Because of this, many question if they are matte proofs. The rim and edge would be more square on a proof.
    The color looks a bit strange but that could be from storage or just the images.

    It's possible that the coin is a fake but I'm not good enough to tell anymore.
     
  21. Stevearino

    Stevearino Supporter! Supporter

    I know that most anything can be faked, but the return on a 1909-P VDB doesn't seem worth the effort, especially with the surface problems.

    May I ask what you paid for the coin? And did the owner of the LCS have any comments about it?

    Steve
     
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