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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1334974, member: 68"]It's pretty hard for me to believe they actually get very many. The mint does buy them at full value by weight but they have to be delivered in New York, I believe. The shipping costs on pennies far outweigh their value especially since they are counted as being all copper. The cost of segregating nickels is pretty high so they buy a lot of mixed clad and cu/ni at a reduced price. Somebody is always out the cost of shipping so I suspect it's primarily the counting houses that redeem coin and they all have their equipment set on passing almost anything that's the right general size and shape. This way they don't take the loss of shipping it. A lot of redeemed coins come from muninciple incinerators which have no real overhead cost and the coins are pure profit. I see a lot of horrible culls that have obviously had a lot of circulation. There are bent coins with a lot of wear on the parts that project upward from the surface. The most common are corroded coins or acid treated. </p><p><br /></p><p>It does seem there has been some general improvement in the coinage in the last three or four years but the number of numismatic culls is continuing to increase. These are things that don't impede the ability to go through counters but make the coin too ugly to be collectible. Mostly it's scratches and gouges but also there are heavy marks or spot corrosion. </p><p><br /></p><p>Clad was designed specifically to make a good alloy when melted to turn into nickels. It's mixed about 50: 50 with nickel to make 5c pieces. While very large percentages of the clad coinage is gone forever very little of it percentagewise has been melted by the mint. I've never seen a number for it and have tried. My understanding is most of the coin they get is just in horrible shape like it came out of an incinerator or Niagra Falls. I will ask my local bank the next time I'm in. If there's anything I'll post it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1334974, member: 68"]It's pretty hard for me to believe they actually get very many. The mint does buy them at full value by weight but they have to be delivered in New York, I believe. The shipping costs on pennies far outweigh their value especially since they are counted as being all copper. The cost of segregating nickels is pretty high so they buy a lot of mixed clad and cu/ni at a reduced price. Somebody is always out the cost of shipping so I suspect it's primarily the counting houses that redeem coin and they all have their equipment set on passing almost anything that's the right general size and shape. This way they don't take the loss of shipping it. A lot of redeemed coins come from muninciple incinerators which have no real overhead cost and the coins are pure profit. I see a lot of horrible culls that have obviously had a lot of circulation. There are bent coins with a lot of wear on the parts that project upward from the surface. The most common are corroded coins or acid treated. It does seem there has been some general improvement in the coinage in the last three or four years but the number of numismatic culls is continuing to increase. These are things that don't impede the ability to go through counters but make the coin too ugly to be collectible. Mostly it's scratches and gouges but also there are heavy marks or spot corrosion. Clad was designed specifically to make a good alloy when melted to turn into nickels. It's mixed about 50: 50 with nickel to make 5c pieces. While very large percentages of the clad coinage is gone forever very little of it percentagewise has been melted by the mint. I've never seen a number for it and have tried. My understanding is most of the coin they get is just in horrible shape like it came out of an incinerator or Niagra Falls. I will ask my local bank the next time I'm in. If there's anything I'll post it.[/QUOTE]
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