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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1978723, member: 112"]PCGS loves people like you for they are what keeps them in business. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now I will readily agree that for those who don't have the knowledge to do it themselves that the conservation services by NGC and PCGS are a good thing. But it appears that you suffer from some misconceptions.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the first place, PCGS cannot remove milk spots from coins, nor do they have or know of anything that can prevent them from appearing on coins. PCGS has published those facts many times, on their own website. And for years PCGS has had a standing reward of $25,000 for anybody who can safely remove milk spots from a coin. That reward has never been claimed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now yes they (PCGS) can remove some spots from coins, just not milk spots. Milk spots are a very specific thing and as of yet nobody, anywhere, even knows for certain what causes them. But anybody can remove some spots from coins if they have the knowledge of how to properly clean coins. There are many different kinds of spots caused by many different things. Some can be removed and some cannot. Properly cleaning (conservation) can remove some environmental contamination, toning, regular dirt and grime. But there are limits to what proper cleaning can do and not all coins can be helped by it. PCGS and NGC both tell you that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now regarding your modern silver, do you know what PCGS does most of the time with modern silver to "conserve" it ? They either dip the coin in acetone or MS70, that's about it. Both of which you can do in your own home, for a fraction of the cost they charge you. As a matter of fact PCGS used to do it for free. And they not only would they not ask the owner of the coin's permission before doing it, they wouldn't tell them either after doing it. And yes these are facts, not rumors. PCGS and NGC both publicly admitted it, in writing, as far back as 1997. It was only in later years that they decided to "charge" people for this service <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1978723, member: 112"]PCGS loves people like you for they are what keeps them in business. Now I will readily agree that for those who don't have the knowledge to do it themselves that the conservation services by NGC and PCGS are a good thing. But it appears that you suffer from some misconceptions. In the first place, PCGS cannot remove milk spots from coins, nor do they have or know of anything that can prevent them from appearing on coins. PCGS has published those facts many times, on their own website. And for years PCGS has had a standing reward of $25,000 for anybody who can safely remove milk spots from a coin. That reward has never been claimed. Now yes they (PCGS) can remove some spots from coins, just not milk spots. Milk spots are a very specific thing and as of yet nobody, anywhere, even knows for certain what causes them. But anybody can remove some spots from coins if they have the knowledge of how to properly clean coins. There are many different kinds of spots caused by many different things. Some can be removed and some cannot. Properly cleaning (conservation) can remove some environmental contamination, toning, regular dirt and grime. But there are limits to what proper cleaning can do and not all coins can be helped by it. PCGS and NGC both tell you that. Now regarding your modern silver, do you know what PCGS does most of the time with modern silver to "conserve" it ? They either dip the coin in acetone or MS70, that's about it. Both of which you can do in your own home, for a fraction of the cost they charge you. As a matter of fact PCGS used to do it for free. And they not only would they not ask the owner of the coin's permission before doing it, they wouldn't tell them either after doing it. And yes these are facts, not rumors. PCGS and NGC both publicly admitted it, in writing, as far back as 1997. It was only in later years that they decided to "charge" people for this service :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
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