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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2694973, member: 46237"]That CoinFacts example is definitely an XF40 though. This is one of the reasons I don't trust PCGS with grading this series and always cross any I get in PCGS slabs to NGC.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS' grading is all over the place on this series. Many of the varieties have shattered or severely worn dies and there were 3 distinct reverse hubs used that produced eagles that had very different wear patterns. PCGS has not demonstrated an understanding of how these factors impact grading for this series, but NGC has. For example, there are common varieties in this series that look like a VF when they are actually AU, so an understanding of this series is important to have to grade accurately. I've seen PCGS under/overgrade this series by 20 points. It's a real head scratcher. NGC is exponentially more consistent and knowledgeable for this series.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let's look at the obverse on the CoinFacts example. You'll note that most of the stars on the left are significantly weaker than on the right. That is a trait of this variety and due to the rotation of the dies (the stars end up opposite letters/arrowheads that cause the weakness). The stars on the right that should be well-struck have a level of detail here that you won't generally see in a VF. Also the level of detail present in the major hair curls (above the ear, to the right of the Y, and to the right of the clasp) all indicate an XF, as does the level of detail on the drapery at the bust. The cheek, brow, and upper cap, however, are on the flat side for XF, but nothing that would bring the grade below an XF40.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the reverse, weakness above the denomination on the right claw and arrows/stem is common for 1837 in general, and not indicative of the level of wear. Instead you can see the higher level of detail in the left claw, eagle's head, neck, and the high points in the wings. All point to XF40.</p><p><br /></p><p>Overall, this isn't the strongest XF40, but it's also not low enough in quality to be on the line with VF35.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2694973, member: 46237"]That CoinFacts example is definitely an XF40 though. This is one of the reasons I don't trust PCGS with grading this series and always cross any I get in PCGS slabs to NGC. PCGS' grading is all over the place on this series. Many of the varieties have shattered or severely worn dies and there were 3 distinct reverse hubs used that produced eagles that had very different wear patterns. PCGS has not demonstrated an understanding of how these factors impact grading for this series, but NGC has. For example, there are common varieties in this series that look like a VF when they are actually AU, so an understanding of this series is important to have to grade accurately. I've seen PCGS under/overgrade this series by 20 points. It's a real head scratcher. NGC is exponentially more consistent and knowledgeable for this series. Let's look at the obverse on the CoinFacts example. You'll note that most of the stars on the left are significantly weaker than on the right. That is a trait of this variety and due to the rotation of the dies (the stars end up opposite letters/arrowheads that cause the weakness). The stars on the right that should be well-struck have a level of detail here that you won't generally see in a VF. Also the level of detail present in the major hair curls (above the ear, to the right of the Y, and to the right of the clasp) all indicate an XF, as does the level of detail on the drapery at the bust. The cheek, brow, and upper cap, however, are on the flat side for XF, but nothing that would bring the grade below an XF40. As for the reverse, weakness above the denomination on the right claw and arrows/stem is common for 1837 in general, and not indicative of the level of wear. Instead you can see the higher level of detail in the left claw, eagle's head, neck, and the high points in the wings. All point to XF40. Overall, this isn't the strongest XF40, but it's also not low enough in quality to be on the line with VF35.[/QUOTE]
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