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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1779148, member: 112"]All cardboard 2x2s produce cardboard dust - all of them. Yeah some may be worse than others. The cardboard dust problem is threefold. 1 - the dust particles can lightly scratch and/or hairline the coin. 2 - the dust particles almost always get on the coin's surface at some point. And eventually that particle will decay, sometimes faster than others. And when it decays each particle will produce a spot on your coin. Those little black spots you often see even on high grade coins, many of them were caused by cardboard dust particles from the 2x2s. 3 - any coin can move around inside a 2x2. Eventually that movement will produce light wear on the high points of the coin.</p><p> </p><p>Coin flips are a bit different but still damage coins - all coin flips. Everybody knows about the PVC flips (soft ones) and not use them for long term storage. But they are harmless for a short time, such as shipping a coin to somebody. In fact for the short haul they are the better choice. That is why almost all dealers use them for shipping and short term storage. DO NOT EVER use them for long term storage. I define short term as a week at most - shipping time in other words.</p><p> </p><p>Saf-Flips and the others like them, archival flips, have their own problems. They are much harder, stiffer, than the soft flips. Because of that the edges at the openings of the archival flips are sharp and those sharp edges have scratched many a coin when the coin is put into the flip or taken out of the flip. Also, because the plastic of the archival flips is harder the coin is much more likely to slide around inside the flip causing wear on the high points. This produces what is called flip rub or flip wear. Even the TPGs are aware of these issues and warn against their use for these reasons.</p><p> </p><p>None of what I am saying is anything new and it is all very well known, has been known for many years by experienced collectors and dealers alike.</p><p> </p><p>It's is always your choice to use what you want to use for your coins. But to pretend that these things don't exist or don't happen, that's foolish because they do happen. These things are a large part of the reason that coin slabs and modern hard plastic holders came to be - specifically to eliminate those problems.</p><p> </p><p>If you want to protect your coins to the best of your ability then you should be using hard plastic holders. Or suffer the consequences.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1779148, member: 112"]All cardboard 2x2s produce cardboard dust - all of them. Yeah some may be worse than others. The cardboard dust problem is threefold. 1 - the dust particles can lightly scratch and/or hairline the coin. 2 - the dust particles almost always get on the coin's surface at some point. And eventually that particle will decay, sometimes faster than others. And when it decays each particle will produce a spot on your coin. Those little black spots you often see even on high grade coins, many of them were caused by cardboard dust particles from the 2x2s. 3 - any coin can move around inside a 2x2. Eventually that movement will produce light wear on the high points of the coin. Coin flips are a bit different but still damage coins - all coin flips. Everybody knows about the PVC flips (soft ones) and not use them for long term storage. But they are harmless for a short time, such as shipping a coin to somebody. In fact for the short haul they are the better choice. That is why almost all dealers use them for shipping and short term storage. DO NOT EVER use them for long term storage. I define short term as a week at most - shipping time in other words. Saf-Flips and the others like them, archival flips, have their own problems. They are much harder, stiffer, than the soft flips. Because of that the edges at the openings of the archival flips are sharp and those sharp edges have scratched many a coin when the coin is put into the flip or taken out of the flip. Also, because the plastic of the archival flips is harder the coin is much more likely to slide around inside the flip causing wear on the high points. This produces what is called flip rub or flip wear. Even the TPGs are aware of these issues and warn against their use for these reasons. None of what I am saying is anything new and it is all very well known, has been known for many years by experienced collectors and dealers alike. It's is always your choice to use what you want to use for your coins. But to pretend that these things don't exist or don't happen, that's foolish because they do happen. These things are a large part of the reason that coin slabs and modern hard plastic holders came to be - specifically to eliminate those problems. If you want to protect your coins to the best of your ability then you should be using hard plastic holders. Or suffer the consequences.[/QUOTE]
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