Does anyone know why Congress said no to Feuchtwanger?

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  1. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Lewis Feuchtwanger, a German immigrant and chemist to New York City created tokens of a copper, nickel, tin, zink alloy and presented it to Congress to become official coinage. It was not approved, although cheaper and easier to produce then the current half and large cents. He still distributed thousands of these so-called Feuchtwanger cents during the small coin shortage in the 1830s and 40s.

    So my question - why didn't Congress approve?
     
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  3. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Wasn't his formula called German Silver? Congress did approve a variation of his formula for the Flying Eagle and Indian Cents for the first few years. I read somewhere that the Mint Director at the time did not want US coins minted with a metal named for a foreign country.
     
  4. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Yes, thats right - the alloy was called German Silver - and as I have understood from Wikipedia goes under several names; Nickel silver, Maillechort, German silver,[1]Argentan,[1]new silver,[1]nickel brass,[2]albata,[3]alpacca,[4]

    Wiki says usual composition is 60% copper, 20% nickel and 20% zinc. Feuchtwanger also used tin (Sn) i think.

    Congress said no to his composition, but I am not sure about the connection to the Flying Eagle and the early date Indian Head Cents until 1864 with 88% Cu and 12% Ni.
     
  5. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    The funny thing is, "German silver" is a term used in English, not in German. :) With regard to coins, we usually say "Neusilber". And that translates to New Silver, see larssten's reply ...

    Christian
     
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  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    why?
    Because they could.
    No more logic than today's congress
     
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  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    It's also the metal composition used in musical instrument keywork and plating and other "durable" goods (as in long lasting). I'm wondering if the composition would have been hard on die longevity and durability.
     
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  8. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    1887 nickel with counter stamp for unknown reasons.

    1887 5¢ German Silver.jpg
     
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  9. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    He didn't pay bribes most likely.
     
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  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Political reasons, I assume, unless there is documented objection coming from the Mint regarding producing them on the new presses that had just been installed.

    I'm reminded now of a book that was for sale at the ANA Summer Seminar Library Sale in 2016. It was an original bound copy of the proceedings of the 25th Congress, or perhaps a single volume thereof, that covered 1837. Whoever bought that book might have a better answer than my guess.
     
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I checked the documents I've transcribed for references to the Feuchtwanger composition and I didn't find the reason why it was rejected. I have Feuchtwanger's proposal, and I have questions from the Mint Director in reference to the alloy, but no answers to those questions.

    Though I don't have the actual document, my understanding was that examination of samples of the metal for Feuchtwanger showed and unacceptable variation in the actual composition. Also there was the problem that there was no source of nickel in the US at the time so the government would be dependent on a foreign source for the metal for our coinage. (Nickel production in the US didn't begin until 1852 or 53.)
     
  12. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Copper planchets were already sourced from overseas until mines in Michigan were up and running in the mid-1840s.
     
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