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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 642657, member: 112&quot;]All coins tone, it is inevitable. You can slow it down, sometimes slow it waaaaay down, but you cannot stop it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now tonedcoins, let me ask you a question. It was asked before, but I do not recall you answering it. You say that you &quot;... don&#039;t agree on a dishonest livelihood of ripping people off...&quot;. OK fine, neither do I. But how do you define that ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Say a person buys an old Waite Raymond album or an old Dansco album, places coins in them, stores the album in a area where the temerpature changes regularly and that has high humidity. This person does this purely because he knows that doing so will cause the coins to tone fairly rapidly. </p><p><br /></p><p>After a period of time the coins do tone, some of them quite beautifully. He then sells all of those coins for large premiums to lovers of toned coins. Is this person ripping somebody off ?</p><p><br /></p><p>The very same thing can be done by storing coins in manila envelopes, wooden coin cabinets lined with velvet, a old cigar box, or even in your sock drawer. It doesn&#039;t matter where the coins are stored, the point is that toning can be greatly accelerated by storing the coins under certain conditions. People know this, and more than a few practice toning their coins by using these methods with the full intention of making the coins tone as fast as they can. Purely so they can sell them for large premiums. But I ask again - is that ripping people off ?</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you think it is, why is it ? The coins are being toned completely, 100% by natural methods.</p><p><br /></p><p>So you see the problem. The very same thing can be done by using chemical processes whether those chemical processes are induced by gases or liquid. And the result will be identical, completely and totally indestinguishable from those coins toned in the albums, envelopes, cabinets, cigar box etc etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I have no doubt that you will say that selling those toned by chemical process <b>IS</b> ripping people off. But what about the others ? </p><p><br /></p><p>And don&#039;t forget, you cannot, absolutely cannot, tell with certainty whether a coin came from the first group or the second group.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I know what my answer is to these questions, but I want to know what your answer is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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