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  1. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    On this vintage Whitman Deluxe Jefferson album? Ebay and Google didn't have any results. Would this further tone some already toned nickels or possibly damage them? I'm tempted to empty this Capital Plastics holder for easier shelf storage. 20210718_190859.jpg 20210718_190912.jpg 20210718_190939.jpg Screenshot_20210608-235839_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20210608-235913_eBay.jpg
     
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You don't want to do that. Leave them alone or put them in separate holders for protection.
     
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Folders are the worst thing you could put them in
     
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  5. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I love the Capital display. Beautiful collection!
     
  6. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Sweet set. If this were mine, it'd stay in the Capital holder and be on display on a wall
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’d leave them in the Capital holder.
     
  8. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I would like to have a man-cave with a natural wood bar covered in Lucite with those nickels embedded into the bar. My friends can drool over them and they'll still be there after everyone leaves. :)
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You have to realize that there's more to it than just the album itself. Literally everything in or about your home contributes to what does or does not happen when it comes to toning. And when I say everything, I mean everything. From the floor coverings to the paint on the walls, to the furniture and accessories, to the type of heating/cooling system, to the cooking methods you use and what you cook, to the cleaning products you use, and your geographic location - all of this and more makes a difference. And then there's the coins themselves, they make a difference too.

    Even with all of that said, I would recommend not using one of those albums.
     
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  10. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    Things I know, which aren't much at the moment on this.

    Whitman does Blue folders, Why is this version Brown? I dont' know. Maybe it's a foreign release version....

    here's a cent one on Ebay.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2244705861...pWP4c-hTVRaC4o6FmGxQbslCAzXzbhrwaAl8_EALw_wcB


    Here's another called a "stock book" that starts 1964 according to the listing.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/143880297799?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

    Whatever you decide to do, try to hang on to the folder and keep it/sell it to someone that would keep it for historical reasons. I don't have much info on this. but many of these folders and albums are lost forever due to destruction.

    If you have interest in chasing this rabbit, you could try a book called "Guide to Vintage Coin Folders and Albums" By Thomas Moll. Not sure if it will have an answer for you or not, but that's the only book I know that tries to add clarity to all the folders and albums from 1950s-1980s.
     
  11. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    don't forget airfresheners and fumigation LOL
     
  12. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Back in the '60s, my Dad would wrap his coins in thin sheets of aluminum foil. I unwrapped a couple of his rolls 50 years later and they look like they just left the Mint. My understanding is that most reactive elements in the air are neutralized by the aluminum before reaching the coins. The problem is, once wrapped, you can no longer view your coins.
     
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And smoking, and fireplaces, and the coal fired power plant just outside of town, and the chemical plant in town, and, and, and, .............
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Fill the album but use cheap coins.
     
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, that was an old trick to help alleviate the effects of toning caused by paper roll wrappers. Wrap a roll of copper coins in aluminum foil, then put them inside the paper roll. And it worked great - sometimes.

    Problem was, if there was ever high humidity, then the moisture caused a chemical reaction between the copper and the aluminum and that chemical reaction corroded the coins far worse than any toning ever did.

    Just about anything and everything that anybody could ever imagine has been tried when it comes to protecting coins and preventing toning. But the only thing that really works is proper storage. And it took collectors hundreds of years to figure that out.
     
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  16. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    A few years back, I was looking for ways to protect coins I might like to store (bury) underground. I soon found myself reading about "coffin torpedoes". In the 19th century, Medical schools would pay good money for cadavers. This, along with the valuables often buried with loved ones, made grave-robbing a popular vocation.

    The increase in grave robberies gave rise to the practice of installing explosives (coffin torpedoes) to detonate if anyone disturbed the coffin or tried to remove the lid. It's estimated that live explosives are still buried in old cemeteries around the world.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/coffin-torpedos

    ...but I digress. :)
     
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  17. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Buy the DW Lange book. NGC Grader. He actually wrote the book (or2) on albums.
     
  18. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I've had my Jefferson set in a Capital Holder for almost five years with no negative effects so far. I'm converting my coins to slabs, rounds, squares, and self stick. A big project but I believe it's for the better. Good luck
     
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  19. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Indeed it is and so do I...!
     
  20. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Don't do that...not for "ease of storage? or for any reason beyond some sort of very temporary and bonified emergency...and in that case put them 2x2 flips (2 to a flip, one in each side) or other. Even if there were no other issues with album storage, why cover up half of this beautiful collection (the reverses) almost permanently... where they can't be seen without removing/handling each coin...and that's neither good nor functional/practical. Wow, the coins are so nice in this holder.
     
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  21. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    so true..i had an electric salt lamp (just a lump of salt with a bulb inside, supposed to give off good vibrations!) anyways, it was near a hard plastic box in which i keep my crh finds until later putting into 2x2's either for sale or keeping, i noticed with all the humidity lately a puddle of water under the box and on my desk, and the coins inside (some zinc and nickels, dimes etc,) a lot of the coins fused together with a bunch of green slime, ruined...i saved some, but not all..and banished the salt thingy!!!
     
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