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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3149069, member: 75937"]That's very astute that you have noticed that the figure held in Vesta's hand faces in different directions. This suggests to me that it represented the work of a different die-engraver, to be sure. However, I respectfully disagree that the figure on the example without the scepter is a Victoriola.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is my understanding, based upon <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=15030.0;wap2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=15030.0;wap2" rel="nofollow">information elsewhere</a>, that "On coins a Palladium appears as an attribute of Aeneas, Nobilitas, Roma, Vesta or Victory. It should not be confused with the Victoriola, the small statue of Victory on a globe."</p><p><br /></p><p>The British Museum describes the reverse of the coin (a die match to mine, you'll recall) as "Vesta, veiled and draped, seated left on throne, holding palladium in extended right hand, left hand at side."</p><p><br /></p><p>Moreover, the Palladium is intimately associated with Vesta in Roman iconography. According to Greek mythology, the Palladium was a small wooden statue of Athena that fell from the heavens into Troy; the safety of the city of Troy depended on their keeping the statue within their walls. Roman tradition before Virgil wrote the <i>Aeneid</i> claimed that Aeneas had taken the statue and brought it with him to Italy. In fact, a Palladium was kept in the Temple of Vesta in the Forum for centuries. It was regarded as one of the <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pignora_imperii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pignora_imperii" rel="nofollow">pignora imperii</a></i>, sacred tokens or pledges of Roman rule (<i>imperium</i>).</p><p><br /></p><p>So, it makes no sense that Vesta would hold a Victoriola here.</p><p><br /></p><p>Moreover, the Palladium is rendered in many different ways in Roman coin design. Here are a few examples of Vesta holding a Palladium from my own collection:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806351[/ATTACH]</p><p>Sestertius of Faustina I, RIC 1124, depicting the Palladium as a winged figure presenting a wreath, much as on the denarii of Julia Domna discussed above.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806352[/ATTACH]</p><p>Denarius of Faustina I, RIC 368, depicting a similar Palladium as a winged figure presenting a wreath, but here the statue has a very long base. I have read (I don't remember where and cannot cite it properly) that this coin may depict the actual Palladium in the temple of Vesta in Rome, where the spike-like base went down into a hole in the floor, thus serving to keep the Palladium upright because it wasn't free-standing.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806353[/ATTACH]</p><p>As of Lucilla, RIC 1789, depicting the Palladium with a similarly elongated base, but not as a winged figure presenting a wreath, but as a helmeted figure (Pallas Athena?) raising its right arm (as if to throw a javelin) and holding a shield.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806354[/ATTACH]</p><p>Denarius of Julia Paula, RIC 224, depicting a rather crudely-rendered Palladium brandishing a spear and holding a round shield.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806355[/ATTACH]</p><p>Denarius of Julia Mamaea, RIC 360, depicting a Palladium holding a spear and round shield. This depiction of the Palladium is very similar to that in the Julia Paula example above, but more artistically rendered.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3149069, member: 75937"]That's very astute that you have noticed that the figure held in Vesta's hand faces in different directions. This suggests to me that it represented the work of a different die-engraver, to be sure. However, I respectfully disagree that the figure on the example without the scepter is a Victoriola. It is my understanding, based upon [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=15030.0;wap2']information elsewhere[/URL], that "On coins a Palladium appears as an attribute of Aeneas, Nobilitas, Roma, Vesta or Victory. It should not be confused with the Victoriola, the small statue of Victory on a globe." The British Museum describes the reverse of the coin (a die match to mine, you'll recall) as "Vesta, veiled and draped, seated left on throne, holding palladium in extended right hand, left hand at side." Moreover, the Palladium is intimately associated with Vesta in Roman iconography. According to Greek mythology, the Palladium was a small wooden statue of Athena that fell from the heavens into Troy; the safety of the city of Troy depended on their keeping the statue within their walls. Roman tradition before Virgil wrote the [I]Aeneid[/I] claimed that Aeneas had taken the statue and brought it with him to Italy. In fact, a Palladium was kept in the Temple of Vesta in the Forum for centuries. It was regarded as one of the [I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pignora_imperii']pignora imperii[/URL][/I], sacred tokens or pledges of Roman rule ([I]imperium[/I]). So, it makes no sense that Vesta would hold a Victoriola here. Moreover, the Palladium is rendered in many different ways in Roman coin design. Here are a few examples of Vesta holding a Palladium from my own collection: [ATTACH=full]806351[/ATTACH] Sestertius of Faustina I, RIC 1124, depicting the Palladium as a winged figure presenting a wreath, much as on the denarii of Julia Domna discussed above. [ATTACH=full]806352[/ATTACH] Denarius of Faustina I, RIC 368, depicting a similar Palladium as a winged figure presenting a wreath, but here the statue has a very long base. I have read (I don't remember where and cannot cite it properly) that this coin may depict the actual Palladium in the temple of Vesta in Rome, where the spike-like base went down into a hole in the floor, thus serving to keep the Palladium upright because it wasn't free-standing. [ATTACH=full]806353[/ATTACH] As of Lucilla, RIC 1789, depicting the Palladium with a similarly elongated base, but not as a winged figure presenting a wreath, but as a helmeted figure (Pallas Athena?) raising its right arm (as if to throw a javelin) and holding a shield. [ATTACH=full]806354[/ATTACH] Denarius of Julia Paula, RIC 224, depicting a rather crudely-rendered Palladium brandishing a spear and holding a round shield. [ATTACH=full]806355[/ATTACH] Denarius of Julia Mamaea, RIC 360, depicting a Palladium holding a spear and round shield. This depiction of the Palladium is very similar to that in the Julia Paula example above, but more artistically rendered.[/QUOTE]
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