do you think this was appropriate?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by OldSilver, Apr 4, 2012.

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  1. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Thats easy to say though when you are not the owner. I honestly don't see the point of this thread if you are going back, no offence. Then your basically being his tool. He made a fool out of you once too many times.
     
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  3. OldSilver

    OldSilver New Member

    ok guys. i know he acted innapropriatley and he was totally out of control but in my opinion writing to the paper or somethng along those lines will cost him business and is just as bad as if i HAD stole from him. dont get me wrong, im not going back in their tonight with a smile on my face, i have coin shows coming up so i wont need to go there but i think since he apologized, admitted he was wrong and offered to even give me personal assistance when in his shop, in about a month if i went back we could just start with a clean slate. its the only shop i have in my town. hunt if you dont see the point of this thread then i dont see the point of you commenting on it....im not trying to offend either but seriously i dont know you, you dont know me so i could care less whether you love my posts or not, there is no need to mke me read about your dissatisfaction. anyways i think thi9s thread hasd about run its course, were just talking in circles. thanks for all the support but like i said in the OP, im 16, very experienced with collecting (not just coins) and i know what im doing. i am not in any way trying to be hurtful to ANYONE on this post, i just did not expect to get such an onslaught of replies and frankly....criticism, i was just simpoly sharing an experience that i thought you guys could appreciate:dead-horse:
     
  4. OldSilver

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  5. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

  6. dmott88

    dmott88 Coin Slinger

    That's ridiculous. I would spread the word. Word of mouth is the worst enemy for a coin shop.
     
  7. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    Not to sound like the old geezer that I am but son, at 16 years old you just ain't "very experienced" at anything yet! ;)
     
  8. OldSilver

    OldSilver New Member

    haha i knew this was coming. i dont think that im some hot shot who kn ows everything and has nothing to learn, ive barely scratched the surfce when it comes to knowledge of coins but i have been collector of mny things since a very young age. i am a freuent buyer AND seller on ebay, i have been to many many many brick and mortar shops in my life and i just have a very good understading with how business works.
     
  9. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Called the police discretely so they can wait for you outside, check and clear you if nothing is found in a more proper way. The business owner should have carried on with business as usual, playing as if he didn't see anything.

    Honestly, $2 nickel or possibly thousands of dollars in fines and possible jail time by holding a person against their will, wrongly accusing them of shop lifting. People who overreact like this deserve any treatment coming their way, because they didn't act appropriately and think before acting.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    When you find someone you think is stealing from you... the emotions can get in the way of proper thought and judgement.

    I tell all of my employees that if they think someone is up to something to let someone in the back of the house know and we can watch them on camera and call the police if and when we see something funny. Let them walk with it but then follow them out and get a plate number and car description. Let the police handle the confrontation if at all possibile...
     
  11. snapsalot

    snapsalot Member

    While I think the shop keeper deffinitely burned some bridges and acted a bit douchey I still got to give him a bit of sympathy.

    He sounds like he is just some grumpy senial old man who acted far too direct and forceful for his own and his shops good. I kind of pitty the fella to be honest.
     
  12. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Exactly how it should be done. You never know if the potential thief has a weapon, etc. It's not worth getting hurt or losing a life over a coin or any other item. Let the police do their job, just do your job as a business owner to get as much credible evidence you can and to try and eliminate mistakes, like blaming an innocent person for wrongdoing.
     
  13. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Call me a meanie, but I have zero sympathy for such people. If being grumpy allows you to act like this in society, then the world has some more serious issues it needs to handle cause being grumpy and senile is a lousy excuse. If you become both and can't control your own actions, then you need to find your self in the nearest old people's home where nurses can take care of you and tie you to a bed so you don't cause any trouble.
     
  14. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Not to start a whole new conversation or debate, but im pretty sure most dealers are packing heat.
     
  15. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Yeah, so then you might have two people dead after they both pull their guns out, and what, over a coin or something that can be replaced? Deadly force is only acceptable if one person is trying to kill the other. Thieves are people committing crimes but these people don't deserve to die for stealing.
     
  16. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Ah, but then their is that large margain of what actually constitutes deadly force. Similar to that of the trayvon martin case. How do you KNOW when your life is threatened, which is where i will stop because it is a gray, political area :).
     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Wow Mike, I can't remember a time I disagree with you more than I do on this subject.

    I submit that if the customer was a grown man instead of a teenager, this guy's actions would have led to inevitable police intervention. And he would be much more interested in what happened to his teeth than his $2 nickel. Having worked in an Atlantic City casino for almost 20 years my experience tells me this: If you call a thief a thief, they try to run. If you call an innocent person a thief, you better be ready for a fight.
     
  18. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Hello stranger.
     
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Saw ya bumping the EXHIBIT threads. How ya doin Ruben?
     
  20. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Well, there are many circumstances involved and each case is different but someone stealing, well, you can easily avoid the whole "deadly force" issue by allowing the police to handle the situation when it comes to theft. What LostDutchman described as his course of action (since he runs his own shop) is exactly how these types of situations should be handled.
     
  21. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Sounds like fun. Are they 'pretty' nurses?
     
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