do you think this was appropriate?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by OldSilver, Apr 4, 2012.

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  1. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    I feel the store owner did what he did to you because of your age. If it was someone older like thirty or more, he wouldn't dare pull something like that. All things aside though, like others have said, take this as a learning experience. Its not about coins, its about the people that you have to deal with in life.

    There are lots of people, dealers, store owners that are either paranoid or sick in the mind. Try to get a feel for how a person thinks before you delve deep into dealing with them whether its business or personal wise. Also this also applies to coin shows, if you go to one don't put your hands in your pockets when you're handling the dealers coins until you give it back to him.
     
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  3. crowbaby

    crowbaby Member

    He do not have a coin missing, he had no right to treat you like that.
    False accusations are upseting.
     
  4. VNeal

    VNeal Member

    I would let him know that your business will be going elsewhere.
    You do not need this a-hole
     
  5. OldSilver

    OldSilver New Member

    yep. thank you so much guys fo the support, made e feel a whole lot better about what happened. my father did call him and made him realize what a foool he was for elevating the situation to such a level. at first the owner even started to get smart and erragant with my father, but after my father explained how passionate i am about coins and how upset i was that i would not be able to return to that shop, the owner almost began begging for me to come back saying that instead of treating me like a child he would help me and give me knowledge (i dont need the likes of him to learn about coins but i guess it was a kind gesture) i guess ill go back there in a few weeks after all this is hopefully out of his and my mind, and i guess ill do him the honor of keeping my hands on my head and using mind control to flip the pages:cool:
     
  6. Dennis68

    Dennis68 Member

    Personally,if this had happened to my son,I would be right there in the store with him today demanding an apology.Like others have stated,when he locked the door to prevent you from leaving,he committed a felony,possibly several. Also,you should know that no one has the right to search you without your consent,not even the police! That is why when they want to search someone,they always ask to do so.
    This guy has probably had problem with young people stealing before,but that does not give him the right to do what he did to you.He should have simply took a look at his security tape before wrongfully accusing you,not to mention "unlawfully imprisoning" you. My advice is simple- take a little time,and get to know your rights,and do not ever let anyone violate them. Way too many people have given their lives to make sure you have them!
    As far as this guy goes,the very least he deserves is the humiliation of having to apologize for his actions.
     
  7. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Why not? Either his family or at least wife knew he was stealing or they need to know if unaware. I would have cared less about embarrassing the man. Anyone who steals deserves to be known as a thief to others, you chose to commit a crime and so you lose the right to privacy. Don't want your privacy wide open, don't commit a crime. ;)
     
  8. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    I wouldn't. Some people should learn the consequences of their own actions.
     
  9. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    I wouldn't, that's a bad idea. Confrontations like these can escalate and something worse could happen. I'm sure people have died because they thought it was a good idea to go on down to demand an apology. The best course of action is to just call the cops, explain the situation and let the other guy sweat some when he sees the cops that THEY DIDN'T CALL pull up in front of his store! ;)
     
  10. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    I would have told the owner to perform an unnatural act upon himself and called the cops myself.
    When the cops arrived I would swear out a complaint against the owner for unlawful imprisonment.
    Then I would contact my attorney and sue the owner for slander and anything else my lawyer can dream up.
     
  11. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP

    As others have said, you definitely should get a lanyard for your loupe. I always think about this when inspecting a dealers coins. You should avoid seeming suspicious and keep the cards on the table.

    That said, this was way blown out of proportion. It sounds like this jerk needs to get a grip. Any decent dealer probably would have gave you some nickels for free over the mistake. Then Id still consider not going back.
    Ive handled gold coins at shows and had the dealer walk away while I was looking at it to go help another customer. One time it was the table right by the exit door. I can understand being paranoid but this situation seems ridiculous.
     
  12. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP

    LOL! Yeah, the owner opened himself up to far more issues than losing a Jefferson nickel. I love the way you conveyed your message here so eloquently in order to keep it family friendly. Ive got a good idea what you would have said! Lol !
     
  13. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    What that dealer did was wrong.
    With the economy these days, people are stealing more.
    We don't know what may have happened to that dealer recently that may have influenced his poor judgement and bad behavior.
    Even though it shouldn't matter, we don't know what the OP was wearing, hair style, facial jewelry, etc. that may make a dealer more wary.
    With times being what they are, even though I'm 41 I always give thought to where my hands are and how my actions may be perceived and frequently do things differently than I normally would to make it clear that I'm not doing anything underhanded.
    It sounds like you can get past this with this dealer after your father's phone call and maybe you can use his guilt to get some good deals. Give him a break and go back there when you feel ready. Then talk to the man when you first walk in and I'll bet he apologizes to you right away.
     
  14. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I'm sorry that happened to you. It takes time for people to realize the rights they have, especially if put in a situation they don't expect and all.

    I hope that if you go there again, that you have your father or other adult there to back you up. The owner has shown his character, and I doubt that he would be different at another time. He's probably pulled this before with people. You really don't want to be in a situation where someone like that if at all possible.
     
  15. papermoney54

    papermoney54 Coin Collector

    hey, might i suggest, some people have their loupes on a chain, so instead of reaching into your pocket, you can wear it around your neck and if you need to get your loupe itll be a round ur neck instead of in your pocket if u have to look at a coin
     
  16. britcoin

    britcoin New Member

    I would call the paper and or write an editorial about the shop and the owner.. see how that effects his business
     
  17. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    While I think the actions of the Dealer were a bit extreme, there's a small lesson to be learned here and that is to keep your hands above the table and visible. If you have to go to your pocket (or under the table) for something, make an obvious gesture like rubbing your hands together and discreetly showing that your palms are empty. I'll do this even for dealers that know me. A friend (and member here) told me a story about how a dealer (at a local show) that he has known for some time 'flipped out' on him over something similar. It ain't pretty and from what my friend related to me, quite a ruckus was made over the situation. I suspect he and the dealer will be staying clear of each other for some time.
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Sounds like the dealer made a mistake, outside the length of time he questioned you and his original mistake, I do not see where he acted inappropriately.

    Put yourself in his shoes for a moment -- how would you have handled the situation if you thought someone had stolen from you?
     
  19. OldSilver

    OldSilver New Member

    ummm....first of ll i would not have locked the door......i would not have come within inches of the possible shopplifter, making him smell my tun breath, and after the customer emptied his pockets to show that he had nothing, i would apologize instead of standing their for another te minutes yelling at the kid and clling him a fool
     
  20. britcoin

    britcoin New Member

    the dealer at the shop I go to does not even stay at the front of his shop.. he is in the back making coffee or doing other things half the time when I am there
     
  21. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    You don't see where he acted inappropriately?
    How about false imprisonment, forcing someone to empty their pockets, slander and outright stupidity?
     
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