Do you think this is a real 1890 CC Morgan Dollar. If so, what grade is it.

Yeah ill call that real and whizzed/polished. Don't bother sending it in.

 

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Did you catch the part where he said he bought it several years ago? You can't use current pricing and say that it is indicative of your theory that a coin is counterfeit if it was purchased 10 (Or heck, 5!) freaking years ago, dude. Also, as a whizzed/polished coin, it would have brought less than guide. Contrary to your beliefs, you CAN and WILL find good deals on coins if you look long enough.

What's book/guide/recent listings on an '82-CC in PCGS 63PL? I just bought one for $125 from a dealer. Just because you are paying full guide or always get quoted full guide doesn't mean that everybody else pays that.

 

I don't think it is real. the 90CC is one of the most counterfeited dates, as it is a good date, but not so rare that it can't be passed off easily (like the 85 or 91cc, which are rarer, but exist far more as slabbed coins). I did notice that he got it a few years ago--that does not change my opinion that it is fake. Does anyone else here sense a pattern that newbies with less than 100 posts put up a picture of a CC Morgan dollar fairly often, and it spurs the debate about whether or not the coin is real or fake, as it is raw and crude-looking? Doesn't that seem fairly obvious that there are a lot of bad CC Morgans in the raw market, and newbies are being taken in by them.

 

I should go back and find a thread you started in May or June of last year and say "Look at this newbie posting chinese counterfeits left and right!" or something. Just because they're new to the forum doesn't mean they're new to the hobby. I joined August 2012, have been collecting again since 2008.

Let's make a bet... If the OP sends it in, and it comes back genuine or with a grade (AKA not a counterfeit) you pay me $100. If it comes back as questionable authenticity, I pay you $100.

 

This is the second thread that you have responded to ME personally, and not addressed the issue of the coin being counterfeit or genuine. Please keep it on topic--the coin, not me, or I shall report it as harassment.

 

I already addressed my feelings on the coin earlier. You went after the OP and basically said he's a fool and he bought a counterfeit. I disagree and am sticking up for him, I think the coin is real, albeit polished/cleaned/whizzed.

You espouse yourself as an expert... put your money where your mouth is, man. Unless you aren't as confident in your opinion as you seem. I'm fairly confident it's real, and I don't even collect Morgans!

 

Put a nickel on the scale, it should weigh in at 5grams.

 

Reported you for harassment to the moderators. I asked you not to make it personal, as I have no quarrel with you, and you persist on doing this. Please cease and desist.

 

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Because you're wrong and you'll never admit it.

I like how you completely ignored my point about my 63PL '84-CC Morgan. I know I got the date wrong earlier, but still, not that big of a difference. It's a pretty nice coin too. Must be a counterfeit slab since I got such a great deal on it... or maybe the dealer just wanted to move some inventory and tossed me a price he knew I'd snap up. Good dealers know it's not about milking every customer to get full guide, it's about building relationships with them that involve both buying and selling. Cut a good customer a deal once in a while, and all it does is build more loyalty.

 

Nice coin!!!!!!!

 

No its gotta be a fake slab, there's no way any dealer would ever sell a coin for under guide.

 

I got a dealer I go to every week, he always give me a killer deal on something.

 

Keep the personal comments off of the thread. No Bets or intimidation.

By the way, the OZ. on a soda can are Fluid ounces, a measure of volume, not weight,

 

Hello again. I am new here. been collecting coins for more than 30 years.

I had in my safe took it out and was puzzled. The other thread I posted on this same coin about the s and t on the obverse of this coin and asked, what was going on. I got many views that it was fake so I started a new thread asking you guys what you thought about the one pic I had, again sorry, a post or thread should have all the correct information before proceeding.

I can grade coins, I just don't know about this one, I think it is ok and will let you guys know soon.
I will add the photo of the reverse and show you again the s and t on the 1890 cc morgan.

Lets get along. Again thanks for all views. Morgan Dude. I don't take anything you say negative against me or my threads, all opinions are what they are. I and many others can still learn each and every day even if you are so sure.

I thank all of you guys out here because new news is good news.:thumb:

 

I thought my scale was off. Lol. thanks for the heads up. What is the best way to calibrate those small scales.

 

Yes, but a fluid OZ of water weighs in at just a tad over 1 Oz. Maybe 5/100's over IIRC I am sure the SG of soda is near the same as water so 12 Fluid OZ. Of soda should weigh in at 12 OZ, pretty close to spot on. But now you have me thinking about the weight of the can.........

 

Probably for diet soda, but factor in the fructose for regular

 

ONCE AGAIN, for the last time--CEASE YOUR PERSONAL COMMENTS AIMED AT ME. I SHALL PURSUE FURTHER ACTION, if you don't see fit to follow the board policy. I never attacked you and I am here to discuss coins--end of story. I shall keep you blocked and do not communicate to me or about me. Thank you for your consideration.

 

Right you are, here is a cool link with a can of Diet Coke floating and Classic Coke sinking. Reg coke weighs in at 394 grams for a SG of 1.1 and Diet Coke, 351 grams for a 1.0 SG

www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/121Adensitycoke.html