Do you think this haze can be removed?

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  1. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Do not clean it. Let the coin naturally tone. I have a silver maple leaf that is a lustrous black and very attractive.
     
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  3. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Personally, I would leave the coin alone. Coin dip will remove the haze. However, in order to dip the coin you need to crack it out. So that's tossing money down the drain. I would leave it and see what happens. As I said earlier if your really like that coin then try to locate another one in it's original capsule and buy it and keep it in it's original packaging. Do not remove it from it's capsule unless you are putting it into a better holder.

    When you shipped it to NGC you must have transferred the coin into a flip. Flips aren't air tight so the longer it sat the more exposure to humidity. Another thing that can be a problem is how the coin was handled. If you removed the coin from it's capsule in a uncontrolled environment or even breathed on the coin before putting it in the flip you could be the one at fault. Proof coins need to be very carefully handled. When ever I transfer a coin to a better holder I try to avoid breathing in the direction of the coin and I wear gloves. You could even wear one of those fancy masks we all have been force to wear but, when working on coins it's probably not a bad idea.
     
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  4. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Maple Leaf reverse.jpg This started with a haze.
     
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  5. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    in all honesty, the haze may wash off with distilled water and not require anything harsher. possible a quick rinse in distilled water would knock it off as long as it hasn't been there long enough to set in (think like a foggy mirror, it will fog up, it will go away, if you never clean the mirror, the fog will eventually dry on there and haze the mirror requiring a window cleaner to break it down. if rinsing don't work you could try rolling q-tips with distilled water over it to wet it and lift it.

    If it is new as you say, then it's likely not set yet/ dried and could be rinsed away, or rolled off the surface with a q-tip and distilled water. ( a lot of q-tips and a lot of rolling until it comes off) it's once the film dries you will need something stronger to break it down, and that will likely remove the enamel (paint) on the coin also. once it's set though, it will take a coin dip to remove it, and anything like that is going to break the paint also same thing goes for pure ammonia, it will dissolve the paint.

    So If I were you, I'd get it back and probably give the distilled water a try and hopefully that haze is relatively fresh.

    that haze that looks white viewed straight on, could be a light gold/yellow/ amber or bluish tone. the reality is, you'd have to get it back, give it a really good tilting and turning once over under a light and see what's going on, also try to judge if that haze is damp and fresh, or dry and old, and figure out what to do about it. Personally I like what it's doing, but everyone is different.
     
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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Leaving it alone might be another option. Cracking it out is wasting money but if it looks unattractive in hand, then it's a bigger loss than the grading fee. I paid $75 for it and if the haze is bad, I doubt it's worth more than melt (around $25). If the haze turns into a nice tone, then that wouldn't be so bad. As far as buying another, there are only two currently available on eBay. One is $90 and the other is $125. Both are from international sellers. So it would cost me more and I would have to wait (shipping can be very slow).

    As far as the process of transferring it to the flip, I've done it before with proof coins (using the same flips). One big difference here was the long time it took to grade. Also, this coin might have just been different than some of my other proofs and the sudden change from many years in a capsule to the flip meant there was nothing to protect it from hazing.
     
  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    If it turns into a nice or even neutral tone, that would certainly be a positive. I collect toners. Modern world coins like these aren't often found with toning, so it could be a good development. I'll update this thread when the coin arrives.
     
  8. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    It's possible it was quick dipped before it was bought to make it look nice I suppose and this is toning from that treatment.
    Everything tones given the right conditions for it.
     
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  9. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    perhaps some conservation will help this coin? Suck that the haze happened.
     
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  10. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Sometimes the NGC photos stink so I await your in-hand verdict
     
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  11. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    For everyone following this thread, the coin arrived and it's not as bad as the NGC cert photo shows. There is some light hazing but at most angles it blends into the surface. You have to tilt it a certain way to see the haze clearly. I'm a bit disappointed but at least I can still enjoy the coin. The plan is to leave it as-is and just see what happens (maybe it will tone or stay fairly constant).
     
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