Do you think this Austrian coin is real?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Hiddendragon, Oct 3, 2015.

  1. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    I'm curious if this coin is real or a fake? And if it's a fake, what gives it away?
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  3. paddyman98

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  4. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    By "real" you mean not a restrike, right?
     
  5. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    I have learned these coins are mostly real, but have been made almost every year since 1780 with the same date as a tradition.
     
  6. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I would say the chances are it is a restrike. They've done so many restrikes I have no idea how you would even being to tell a real one apart.
     
  7. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    So the restrikes are still silver and the same composition? Is it like a frozen date? Were they restruck to circulate or as a collector's item or something else?
     
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  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    looks like a modern restrike. I had 1 of those once. traded it for other coins.
     
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  10. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    I ended up getting it for $5. Worth it?
     
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  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Definitely. It's a late 20th century Vienna restrike but still should be at least 80% silver.
     
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  12. doug5353

    doug5353 Well-Known Member

    Especially after World War II, Maria Theresa's (and British gold sovereigns) were one of the major storehouses of wealth in the Middle East - Arabia, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon, this was the "go-to" coin.

    They were popular long before that, of course, which is why they struck them basically unchanged for nearly 200 years. Now maybe the Chinese are striking them, but those would not be so popular. :eek:

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    As far as I know, 99.9% are restrikes; they're just a bullion coin, struck many different places over the years.
     
  13. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I think the OP's question is if this is an authentic modern restrike or rather a Chinese counterfeit, right?

    Edit: ok I guess Numismat has provided an answer already... still it would be good to know how to identify counterfeits
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2015
  14. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Yeah, I was looking to avoid a Chinese counterfeit. I don't know much about these coins but I had an idea that this one wasn't really from 1780.
     
  15. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    If I remember correctly, the 1st 30+ years of striking were made for circulation, but like Numismat said your example is possibly 20th century. However, even late 19th century examples are just as nice looking, much like Morgan $.
     
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    Hiddendragon World coin collector

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  18. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Such coins circulated in some of an African countries (such as Somalia) in XX century.
     
  19. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Interesting how they were made in multiple countries.
     
  20. xCoin-Hoarder'92x

    xCoin-Hoarder'92x Storm Tracker

    Chances are if it's in UNC condition still it could be a restrike (millions of these were made after 1780) I have a few of these myself but they weren't struck in 1780 like the coin says. ;)

    Yes, "real" as in made of silver, but I can't tell when it was made.

    That's a lot less than melt value. You did good on that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2015
  21. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Thanks. It was one of those "estate sale" coins on ebay with a really low bid so I was intrigued but cautious. It seems like about half the coins on eBay were from estate sales.
     
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