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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1379943, member: 13650"]I have some 70s in my collection and I agree and disagree with what's been said. I understand the theory behind the 70 grade in that there has to be a top grade. If we didnt have the 70 grade than 69s would be the top grade and probably way over-inflated. In that case, we should be happy that 69s can be purchased at a huge discount. </p><p><br /></p><p> What I've noticed is that sometimes you can find 70s that are not priced all that much higher than the 69 grade. In those cases, I will usually opt for the 70. I too would much rather buy the 69 most of the time. </p><p><br /></p><p> A good example is the 2001 Buffalo commemoratives. $130 to $150, for a 69, some people think that is over-inflated. Then a 70 goes to a few hundred or more. The 70 is not worth it in that scenario to me. Not worth double the value of the 69. If it was $180 for the 70, I'd probably pay the premium to get one. </p><p><br /></p><p> The 70s I have are perfect, mark, nick, scuff free coins. That's what people are paying for. Most 69s you can tell why they received the grade. Some you can't. I don't feel that 70 is a fake grade, although many problems are so minor it becomes like splitting hairs. I still agree that it's gotten way out of hand. Especially on some of these silver state quarters. It's insane. I have MS69 graded coins that are plenty nice for me. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> I think you have to use a little common sense in considering them. Do you want a 19th century gold coin or a PF70 state quarter that has a low population (for now) and is barely any different than the 69 version? Which has more long term potential of gaining value?</p><p> Maybe there will always be die hard 70 collectors? Who knows? The quality of all coins plays a role in price. The issue is that the coins in question are collector coins, never handled, never circulated and ALL saved. The only minor problems they can exhibit is damage that occurred at the mint. The theory is that nearly everything the mint kicks out is 69 quality and only some can achieve 70 quality. I agree with this. I've seen plenty of 69s with nicks, marks, scuffs, spots, specks, etc.... That's the norm. I feel that 70s are above the norm for making it through totally unscathed.</p><p><br /></p><p> I guess I'm of the camp that in most cases, they deserve a slight premium but not several multiples of what 69s go for. It would be risky to dump everything into 70 quality coins at current values.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1379943, member: 13650"]I have some 70s in my collection and I agree and disagree with what's been said. I understand the theory behind the 70 grade in that there has to be a top grade. If we didnt have the 70 grade than 69s would be the top grade and probably way over-inflated. In that case, we should be happy that 69s can be purchased at a huge discount. What I've noticed is that sometimes you can find 70s that are not priced all that much higher than the 69 grade. In those cases, I will usually opt for the 70. I too would much rather buy the 69 most of the time. A good example is the 2001 Buffalo commemoratives. $130 to $150, for a 69, some people think that is over-inflated. Then a 70 goes to a few hundred or more. The 70 is not worth it in that scenario to me. Not worth double the value of the 69. If it was $180 for the 70, I'd probably pay the premium to get one. The 70s I have are perfect, mark, nick, scuff free coins. That's what people are paying for. Most 69s you can tell why they received the grade. Some you can't. I don't feel that 70 is a fake grade, although many problems are so minor it becomes like splitting hairs. I still agree that it's gotten way out of hand. Especially on some of these silver state quarters. It's insane. I have MS69 graded coins that are plenty nice for me. I think you have to use a little common sense in considering them. Do you want a 19th century gold coin or a PF70 state quarter that has a low population (for now) and is barely any different than the 69 version? Which has more long term potential of gaining value? Maybe there will always be die hard 70 collectors? Who knows? The quality of all coins plays a role in price. The issue is that the coins in question are collector coins, never handled, never circulated and ALL saved. The only minor problems they can exhibit is damage that occurred at the mint. The theory is that nearly everything the mint kicks out is 69 quality and only some can achieve 70 quality. I agree with this. I've seen plenty of 69s with nicks, marks, scuffs, spots, specks, etc.... That's the norm. I feel that 70s are above the norm for making it through totally unscathed. I guess I'm of the camp that in most cases, they deserve a slight premium but not several multiples of what 69s go for. It would be risky to dump everything into 70 quality coins at current values.[/QUOTE]
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