Do you own any Civil War Tokens?

Since this discussion is concerning CWT

I recently found this CWT while searching a bag of wheaties. Can any one tell me anything about this token? I would appreciate the assistance since it is not my normal area of interested.
It is from the D. Farnham & Co. in Edgerton Ohio dated 1864

 

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That's a nice token : )

Your store card is larger than most, them usually being around 21mm in diameter.

If copper, the catalog number would be 630AQ-1a (R1)
R1 indicates more than 5,000 known to exist.

If brass the catalog number would be NY630Q-1b (R-9)
R9 indicates only 2-4 known to exist.

The odds say you have a copper token, and sometimes certain tokens are considered copper unless distinctly brass.

It would be nice if it's an R9, with a 2002 book value of $90. I'd expect a brass version to bring $200 USF or thereabouts.

I suspect from photo it may be made of brass; perhaps you can figure that out. Don't sell it without knowing, although I'd bet it's not going anywhere soon. :high5:

 

I am having a little trouble determining which reverse die was used to make this,

either die 1223 for id OH 270A-4a R5 (75-200) valued at $60 in F/VF in Kanzinger's 2002 book
or die 1229 for id OH 270A-5a R9 (2-4 known) valued at $75 in F/VF

In either case, Edgerton is a single merchant town, and all of his tokens are rated at R5 or scarcer.

 

I am leaning towards die 1223 as being the one used, but it is hard to be certain. Definitely a nice find though! Wish that would happen to me.

 

I agree. : )

I couldn't tell either; one of the die photos in the book is terrible; can't tell much so couldn't distinguish one variety from the other. : )

 

Don't worry about Rulau's catalog for cwts Larry. It is virtually worthless, and Rulau more or less states as such in the preface to the cwt section.

The Marshall House token certainly does have some history tied to it. Quite a story. I don't know about me being an expert. I'm just like you, a hobbyist with an avid interest. I just had a head start on you. My Schiller counterstamped cent is cwt id LA670A-1do. It is not listed in the old Fuld's storecard book, but it will be listed in the new storecard book that is in the works. I've got several methods to learn what will be in the new book.

Do you mean VA580 for Norfolk? That is the only Virginia city that I saw listed. I don't have that one yet.

 

I had made a notation on my die photos page that die 1223 has larger openings (or loops) in the numerals 864 of the date than what are shown on die 1229. Not much difference between them for sure. If you think that pair is difficult to distinguish, I should show you the die photos for my transit tokens. There might be a dozen photos that look identical, and even though they mark each die with notations of its distinguishing features, and it is still extremely difficult.

 

Thank you for your reseach. It is nice that we have a place were we can ask questions about our finds.

 

Here's a photo taken with some new kind of lighting.

Although this token isn't the greatest, this lighting should be great for uncirculated examples, too.

 

This is a great thread, so here's a Civil War Store Card thrown in just for kicks. I love this turkey!

 

I love the civil war tokens, although I don't have any...
I like the Army/Navy civil war token, it is kinda cool... And I also like the ones with the obverse, similar to that of an indian head penny..
I'm not that knowledgeable on these tokens though... I may buy one in the future, but nothing immediate...

 

Nice Washington Market cwt, Moonshadow. I also like that design. If you ever wondered who the G. GL. is that signed the token, it was George J. Glaubrecht, whose shop was at 95 Fulton Street in New York City.

 

Thanks cwtokenman...I am interested to learn more about these.

 

That's a nice, apparently uncirculated turkey store card, moonshadow. : )

It's one I don't yet have but perhaps someday. It's nice to see your collection growing as you encounter tokens that you fancy. : )