Do you like old coins that look old?

Wow didnt know mexico was a country back then. Top notch coin. I like the genuine too. Thats a museum piece. Way impressive

 

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Did you have anything to do with the sinking. Or relatives

 

... or even how many times it was gassed to give it that "orginal" surface and patina.

 

Yes

I'm just waiting for one of the toning gurus to mess up and appear in the news after gassing themselves...

 

Ay be haunting the seas and I owned a debt to the U.S. Goverment so I had to do a deed.

 

You mean like the blast white Guru, who took a sip of the wrong cup while dipping coins?

 

I'd like to think someone bought a few pints with my morgan dollar

 

Lol. Knee slapping stuff

 

You don't know that. And even if it was "no one of any note" who handled these coins, so what? History doesn't happen in a vacuum by great men living in total isolation. Even the humblest craftsman, poor person, prostitute, etc., who lived during those times is part of the history of our past. They might not have made the books, but it is these people who made up the society which could sustain and produce "people of note".

Also pure speculation in your part. That mint state coin could have just as easily sat forgotten in a bank vault for many decades until sold off to collectors a few decades ago.

Besides, most coin collectors in the world are not rich. That coin with wear which you dismiss so casually could have just as easily been treasured and loved within the humble collection of some boy from a working class family. YES, this is speculation in my part, but it is not less believable than your fancy story about some dignitary owning your Mint State coins, or them being this major family heirloom to people in the past. In fact, I contend my story might be slightly more plausible than yours.

 

Ok

 

Dont tell me you only wear bell bottoms. If 200ad is new. God help your wardrobe. Zoot suit maybe. Kidding of course

 

Yeah i think only families with shoes were able to save coins. Maybe the fact that one had to work many hours just to put food on the table means less then the bosses that had large purses and drank wine. Yeah that the type of history that made america great. Not

 

I don't know how far back you want to go, but by 100 years ago (the OPs date in the opening post) in the US I'm fairly certain most working class families could afford shoes, and the occasional coin for their child to save or buy sweets or baseball cards with. They might not be well off, but they were much better off than they were a generation before. By 1918 the 40 hour work week, labor laws, work safety laws, unions, antitrust laws, and wage laws were a thing.

Anyway, that's getting into politics so I'll leave it there.

 

Completely agree the historical aspect is the same. It's not like anyone can actually prove their coin bought the bullet that started WW2 or anything like that they just like to guess and pretend when most just went from person to person with nothing significant. Circulated or MS both are survived the same amount of time in different ways and started at the same place.

With all of that said, for US coins most of us are predisposed to like ciruclated coins more for older issues since with the exception of Morgans (the ASE of the 1800s) most people don't have a choice but to collect circulated coins due to the price.

 

For me, it depends on the series. Some I want pristine if I can get it, like Morgans or Peace Dollars, older coins (pre-1900) I like a little character.

IMO, collect them the way you like them.

 

yep

Are you saying my Jesse James cache horde might not be legit? The guy at the thrift store guaranteed me they were part of some James Gang loot!

 

Many such coins have a verifiable provenance to a specific collection. I have coins with collector tags and notes dating back to the mid 19th century that have been passed down with the coins, pattern issues that were known to have been handed out only to parliamentary members and dignitaries, proofs that were unlikely to have simply sat around somewhere random, other coins and medals with identifiable features that tie them back to a specific sale and a particular provenance from a known collection or bank vault hoard etc. I don't find it implausible at all, rather it is quite possible to know this with certainty or near certainty with many coins.