Do you have any broken coins?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pellinore, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I have several broken coins, this is a tetradrachm of Antiochos IV that I bought broken, because I wanted to see what's IN a coin.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nope, that is one thing I will never buy no matter the cost. I can handle flan cracks, off centers, wear, but broken or repaired from break, NO!
     
  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Yes I have one but unlike yours I haven't got the bit that broke off, my guess is mine broke in antiquary, probably not long after minted as it has a large flan and was struck to thin but has so much detail and for the most not in the broken area, still weighs 3.4 gm, Octavian, 30-28 BC, Senate house Curia Julia. Still in the Roman Forum today. 30-29 BC Octavian Senate house Curia Julia.jpg
     
  5. randygeki

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  6. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    And then there’s this sad case. I photographed my 6th century Gepid Quarter Siliquas (all four were broken anyway, when I bought them) and later I discovered that a little piece had splintered off when I took the coin out of its holder. It's tiny (14 mm) and thin (weighs about 0,5 gr.).

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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have a few
    Sicily Gela.jpg
    GELA, SICILY
    AR Litra
    OBV: Naked horseman galloping left holding spear & shield
    REV: Forepart of man-headed bull right
    Struck at Gela, Sicily, 425BC
    0.36g; 13mm
    SNG Cop 275, BMC 52, Jenkins 405; HGC 2 374
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    EASTERN CELTS, DACHREITER TYPE
    AR Drachm
    OBVERSE: Celticized head of Zeus right
    REVERSE: Celticized horseman riding left; wheel of four spokes above
    Struck by the Skordoski in Syrmia, 2d Century BC
    1.87g, 14mm
    OTA 188/2-3
    L CALPURNIUS PISO.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO CAESONINUS & Q SERVILIUS CAEPIO ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS CALPURNIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Saturn facing right, harpa and legend PISO behind, CAEPIO and symbol below, Q below chin
    REVERSE: AD FRV EMV EX SC, the two quaestors seated left between 2 grain ears
    Struck at Rome 100 BC
    3.6g, 20mm
    Crawford 330/1a; Syd 6031
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    M. AEMILIUS (POMPEY Victory v ARETAS ); GENS AEMILIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: M . SCAVR / AED CVR above king Aretas kneeling beside a camel r., EX on ,S . C on right, REX ARETAS in ex
    REVERSE: HYPSAE (vs) / AED CVR above Jupiter in quadriga left, CAPTVM on right, c. HYPSAEVS cos PREIV (ER) in ex. scorpion below horses
    Rome 58 BC
    3.1g, 17mm
    Cr422/1a; Syd 912
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    AUGUSTUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: AVGVSTUS DIVI F, bare head right
    REVERSE: Bull butting right
    IMP X in exergue
    Lugdunum 15-13 BC
    3.7g, 18mm
    RIC I 167a, BMC 451. C 137, CBN 1382
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    HADRIAN
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P, laureate head right
    REVERSE: ADVENTVS AVG, Roma, standing right holding spear and clasping hands with Hadrian standing left.
    Struck at Rome, 134-138AD
    2.8g, 17mm
    RIC, 225, RSC 84a
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    FAUSTINA Sr
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: DIVA FAVSTINA, draped bust right
    REVERSE: AETERNITAS, Juno standing left, hand raised, holding scepter
    Struck at Rome, 141 AD
    2.9g, 17mm
    RIC 344
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    CARACALLA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, laureate head right
    REVERSE: MONETA AVG, Moneta standing left, holding scales & cornucopiae
    Struck at Rome, 211 AD
    2.28g, 19mm
    RIC 224
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    MAXIMIANUS
    AR Argenteus
    OBVERSE: MAXIMIANVS AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: VIRTVS MILITVM, four tetrarchs sacrificing before walls with 6 turrets
    Struck at Ticinum, 295 AD
    2.6g, 18mm
    RIC VI 18b
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    ANASTASIUS
    Half Follis
    OBVERSE: D N ANASTASIVS P P AVG - Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: Large K - cross to left, Γ to right
    Struck at Constantinople 491-518 AD
    .03g, 8.5mm
    SB 23
     
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I usually pass on those except as very inexpensive (i.e. cheap) historical curios. However, I do have half a dupondius of Agrippa and Octavian (the crocodile type) and a chipped JC/Venus denarius posted below:
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  10. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Us ancient collectors are pretty forgiving. I don't think you will find a 'broken' thread in another part CT.

    I have a few, here's my favourite.

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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 2.84g
    Rome Mint, 79 AD
    RIC 1063 (R), BMC 244var., RSC 550var.
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; Head of Vespasian, laureate, l.
    Rev: TR POT X COS VIIII; Ceres, draped, seated l., holding corn-ear and poppy in r. hand and torch upright in l.

    I guess it could be called 'chipped' rather than broken.
     
  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Now this coin is truly broken.

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    Domitian Caesar
    AR Quinarius (Broken), 1.04g
    Rome mint, 75 AD
    RIC V791 (C), BMC V158, RSC 634
    Obv: CAES AVG F DOMI COS III; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: VICTORIA AVGVSTI; Victory std. l., with wreath and palm
     
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  12. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Now these are excellent pieces - still.
     
  13. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    For broken coins they are still quite nice, especially like the Augustus/Bull denarius. Do you think that you got them cheaper with their flaws? I still paid quite a bit for my Curia denarius, but would have probably cost 20 times more if it was a full coin.
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I have a few, and a few more that are unphotographed.

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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yes, without a doubt. There are a couple in this group I got in cleaning lots, but the better ones, such as the Augustus and the Maximianus, I was able to buy at deep discounted prices. If they had been whole, the price would have been out of reach for me.
     
  16. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Charles the Bald, Carolingian Empire
    AR obol
    Obv: Monogram of Charles
    Rev: + METVLLO around cross in circle
    Mint: Metallum (struck 840-877 AD)
    Ref: MG 1060

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    I bought it already broken (the big missing chunk) but unfortunately it broke a couple more times as soon as I open the package. Was really annoying super-gluing the pieces back together, until I figured to use a q-tip.
     
  17. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    Chipped coins are very common in British Anglo-Saxon coinage. For some rarer issues only broken examples are known.

    Here is one of my chipped/broken coins, a sceat of Aethelwald Moll:
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    It's chipped but it's otherwise a reasonably detailed example.

    There are only three known and all are impaired to some extent.

    The coin has a long provenance and the ancient damage to this coin makes it very easy to identify in old numismatic literature; I found a drawing of it in a text from around 1840.
     
  18. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    This came in a lot with a label that said it is Clodius Albinus, I have never checked
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  19. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    z 1071-1078 Michael VII fourrée Gold Tetarteron 2,5g19mm S1870.jpg

    Tetarteron fourree, 2,5 gram and 19mm, sear 1870

    Obverse: Mary with infant Christ.
    Reverse: Left Michael VII Doukas, right Maria. Holding a staff surmounted by cross.
     
  20. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Nice, probably used as a button.
     
  21. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I can't see any circumstance where I would buy a broken coin. Ever.

    Are broken coins like this common? Why would a coin break? I understand the concept of split planchets and laminations, but these look like they are recent breaks (especially the ones where both pieces are still there).
     
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