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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3001626, member: 112"]There's two concepts here that everybody needs to get into their heads. All metal corrodes folks, it is the very nature of metal to do so. Take steel or iron for example, corrosion on it we call rust. And when steel rusts, whether it's a battleship or the tools in your garage, the rust must be cleaned away and removed else the item become useless and eventually completely destroyed. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now a little bit of rust on the surface doesn't really hurt anything, you know that and I know that. But we both also know that if we leave it there it's going to become a very bad thing before too long. I think everyone here at one point in their life or another has seen a car or truck where rust has eaten holes right through the metal ! That is the effect of corrosion. And it happens with all metals.</p><p><br /></p><p>This idea or concept is the very premise for Weimar White's book. In his opinion any and all toning is corrosion, he out and out calls ALL TONING damage. And he promotes dipping all coins that have toning on them.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now the numismatic community as a whole thinks Weimar White is a nutcase. Not because he says that toning is corrosion - everybody knows that it IS corrosion. But because he says that all toned coins are damaged and must be dipped. What most people in numismatics think is beautiful White sees as ugly and damaged. </p><p><br /></p><p>At the same time, everybody in numismatics, or at least everybody that knows anything, recognizes and agrees that toning <u>can be and will be</u> harmful to coins if it is allowed to progress beyond a certain point. They also know that it cannot be stopped, it can never be stopped. The very best that you can ever hope for is to slow it down as much as possible. And the only way you can do that is with proper storage.</p><p><br /></p><p>So what's really going on here with the words toning and corrosion ? It's the very same thing that's going on with the words clean and conserve. In both cases they both mean the exact same thing, and in both cases one word is nothing more than euphemism for the other. And both words, toning and conservation, have come about and been adopted for use by coin collectors because they don't like the negative connotation that is attached to the other 2 words - corrosion and cleaning. It's really just that simple. That is what euphemisms are and why they are created and used - it is their very purpose in language !</p><p><br /></p><p>All of this is factual - 100%. It's not a matter of opinion or what one chooses to believe or not believe - it's fact plain and simple ! Every single bit of it has been proven over and over again by actual experience and by science - every bit of it ! And anyone who chooses not to believe it is doing nothing more than fooling themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for dipping, do I recommend it on any and all coins ? Not only no but hell no ! But I do strongly, urgently even, recommend it when it is needed to protect a coin from certain destruction. And make no mistake, destruction is absolutely certain if toning/corrosion is allowed to progress unchecked.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3001626, member: 112"]There's two concepts here that everybody needs to get into their heads. All metal corrodes folks, it is the very nature of metal to do so. Take steel or iron for example, corrosion on it we call rust. And when steel rusts, whether it's a battleship or the tools in your garage, the rust must be cleaned away and removed else the item become useless and eventually completely destroyed. Now a little bit of rust on the surface doesn't really hurt anything, you know that and I know that. But we both also know that if we leave it there it's going to become a very bad thing before too long. I think everyone here at one point in their life or another has seen a car or truck where rust has eaten holes right through the metal ! That is the effect of corrosion. And it happens with all metals. This idea or concept is the very premise for Weimar White's book. In his opinion any and all toning is corrosion, he out and out calls ALL TONING damage. And he promotes dipping all coins that have toning on them. Now the numismatic community as a whole thinks Weimar White is a nutcase. Not because he says that toning is corrosion - everybody knows that it IS corrosion. But because he says that all toned coins are damaged and must be dipped. What most people in numismatics think is beautiful White sees as ugly and damaged. At the same time, everybody in numismatics, or at least everybody that knows anything, recognizes and agrees that toning [U]can be and will be[/U] harmful to coins if it is allowed to progress beyond a certain point. They also know that it cannot be stopped, it can never be stopped. The very best that you can ever hope for is to slow it down as much as possible. And the only way you can do that is with proper storage. So what's really going on here with the words toning and corrosion ? It's the very same thing that's going on with the words clean and conserve. In both cases they both mean the exact same thing, and in both cases one word is nothing more than euphemism for the other. And both words, toning and conservation, have come about and been adopted for use by coin collectors because they don't like the negative connotation that is attached to the other 2 words - corrosion and cleaning. It's really just that simple. That is what euphemisms are and why they are created and used - it is their very purpose in language ! All of this is factual - 100%. It's not a matter of opinion or what one chooses to believe or not believe - it's fact plain and simple ! Every single bit of it has been proven over and over again by actual experience and by science - every bit of it ! And anyone who chooses not to believe it is doing nothing more than fooling themselves. As for dipping, do I recommend it on any and all coins ? Not only no but hell no ! But I do strongly, urgently even, recommend it when it is needed to protect a coin from certain destruction. And make no mistake, destruction is absolutely certain if toning/corrosion is allowed to progress unchecked.[/QUOTE]
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