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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;s1lverbird59, post: 1608276, member: 42191&quot;]Use&nbsp; the two coins pictured place in hands and ask yourself how did I get these..Did they just drop out of the sky or were they circulated and I purchased them..Sorry but have not mentioned a coin of proof quality beat up and spent having a grade..Sure it would be problematic..Both these coins were put into circulation they may have went into public hands or special collectables your key word is SOLD..The coins should be graded as two different because they are not same quality..They came through same chain of distribution..All is Terminology you got to take it serious or you have nothing..Definations are used in many catagories &quot;FINE&quot; is one of those..Our grade system is a catagory..Disagree or not put common sense to work and think a bit..Just what are we doing to the coins LJ[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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