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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;s1lverbird59, post: 1608149, member: 42191&quot;]There is no defination for the word Uncirculate in the &quot; Webster &quot;..The method of Circulation is the Distribution of product produced and SOLD, once it leaves the mint it is considered sold and in circulation..It doesn&#039;t matter if it is physically touch.. It can not be a nothing other than circulated..We grade Mint State on condition of the coins..There is no act of handling or rubbing it, carrying in the pocket..Passing or sale for futher ownership by another person is circulation..The mint state grades is a grade of coin that was at the mint before distribution when it leaves the mint it becomes a circulation object..We don&#039;t grade Un-touched, Should not grade Un-circulation..Red book needs to look up Circulation in Webster and then try to fine Un-circulation...If like you say a coin grades MS (Mint State) is a coin that has NOT been circulated..I&#039;ll agree with you as long as it is still in the MINTS Hands...For us to have a grade Mint State coin it is from circulation because it is from their distribution chain and has been sold....The Banks of the Federal Gov. is suppose to be the method of distribution, Hobby has gotten so big that they can&#039;t handle the job so now we and/dealers are allowed to purchase direct..Just think regardless of business strike Mint sets, Proof Sets, if it is still in mint hands it is Not a circulated&nbsp; coin..I guess you could say UN-Circulated at this point although it is meanless...The Proof grading of coin with their own designation to me is wrong..If you want to say Proof Fine it designates a method of manufactur,,But then it goes to circulation and at this point is graded on the Mint State scale for condition..thus PMS-69DC. Now we have CAC added and now we have STARS added...Now people are purchasing based on grading co&#039;s holder that says CAC and STARS..got have a coin like this...The Old coin is what you should be buying and not the service...LJ[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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