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<p>[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1368107, member: 26784"]bingo....he is right. It does happen but not to the extent that everyone thinks. I sell a lot on Ebay....usually anywhere from 40 to 60 auctions per week and while nobody has to believe me...I do not shill bid my auctions and I don't have family members either. If you do things right, good images, fair shipping and return policies you build up a good reputation and your coins can sell for fair to strong prices. Yes I lose money on some coins but I make money on plenty of others and for me it's not worth the risk to make a few extra bucks playing games. If I can't buy coins and resell them for a profit then I have no business being a dealer as I either don't have an eye for what my customers like or I don't have a clue what the market will bare so I over paid. </p><p><br /></p><p>I can't tell you how many time a winning bidders has had zero feedback and I get a nasty note from an underbidder accusing me of shill bidding??? <span style="color: #ff0000">edited</span> I can't stop anyone from bidding, ebay has made sure of that and I cringe myself when they win simply becuase of perceptions and the chances being higher that they won't pay. I have also had plenty of folks bid up a coin and then cancel there bids which again makes folks think something funny is going on, but other than blocking those folks from bidding in the future there is nothing a seller can do and ebay allows bid cancellations which they should not. I have cancelled auctions and had to relist them do to bidder shananagins and it always negatively reflects on the seller when I had nothing to do with it.</p><p><br /></p><p>So in a nutshell...take the advice given and decide what your willing to pay for an item and folks will either shill or they won't but realisticly you won't know if it's going on or not in 98% of cases, it's just folks assuming the worst since you can get some good deals on Ebay and if you have to pay fair market value then something had to be shady right? lol[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1368107, member: 26784"]bingo....he is right. It does happen but not to the extent that everyone thinks. I sell a lot on Ebay....usually anywhere from 40 to 60 auctions per week and while nobody has to believe me...I do not shill bid my auctions and I don't have family members either. If you do things right, good images, fair shipping and return policies you build up a good reputation and your coins can sell for fair to strong prices. Yes I lose money on some coins but I make money on plenty of others and for me it's not worth the risk to make a few extra bucks playing games. If I can't buy coins and resell them for a profit then I have no business being a dealer as I either don't have an eye for what my customers like or I don't have a clue what the market will bare so I over paid. I can't tell you how many time a winning bidders has had zero feedback and I get a nasty note from an underbidder accusing me of shill bidding??? [COLOR=#ff0000]edited[/COLOR] I can't stop anyone from bidding, ebay has made sure of that and I cringe myself when they win simply becuase of perceptions and the chances being higher that they won't pay. I have also had plenty of folks bid up a coin and then cancel there bids which again makes folks think something funny is going on, but other than blocking those folks from bidding in the future there is nothing a seller can do and ebay allows bid cancellations which they should not. I have cancelled auctions and had to relist them do to bidder shananagins and it always negatively reflects on the seller when I had nothing to do with it. So in a nutshell...take the advice given and decide what your willing to pay for an item and folks will either shill or they won't but realisticly you won't know if it's going on or not in 98% of cases, it's just folks assuming the worst since you can get some good deals on Ebay and if you have to pay fair market value then something had to be shady right? lol[/QUOTE]
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