Do people reprint these?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by NumismaticGary, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. While purchasing some proof sets, I notice quite a different hue to those "flat-pack" type of envelopes. Taking a closer look it seems on some of the newer looking ones, the font doesn't quite match the obviously old legitimate ones, which I find odd. Especially since they have NEVER been sealed. Who and why would someone do this?! And why does my coin dealer sell these? I asked him, telling me "I don't know"

    So maybe someone out there has any ideas about what's going on here. ;)

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I don't know............quite what you're asking. Looks legit to me.
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  4. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    Is it possible that the envelopes were made by different suppliers to the Mint?
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Quite frankly, I devote most of my attention to what is contained within the envelope..........
  6. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

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  7. Copper lover

    Copper lover Well-Known Member

    It is legit and the way that older sets were packaged by the US Mint. I have some. Also, the Royal Canadian Mint packaged similarly for older sets. HTH
  8. Wow. This is crazy to me! I guess I'm just one of those that like everything original, I think sellers should tell their customers if something has been refurbished! But idk. At least the coins are original (though they can re-pack those in the plastic I was just reading). A lot of people looking for special stuff like deep cameos etc I can imagine you can put together a set from many different sets cherry picking the coins out.
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  9. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

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  10. JeffC

    JeffC Hogwarts Numismatist Apprentice Supporter

    I remember seeing a 1960 mint set in my hand-me-down box and so I went to check it to compare with yours. I think I see what you mean about the color. The original is more "craft paper" brown whereas the one in your pic is the shade of brown envelopes in stationery stores nowadays. Well, I think after 60 years, the original envelopes are probably in pretty bad shape. Here's mine, which I fixed up with scotch tape. The inside note from that stern, mean-sounding lady superintendent (telling you not to write to her, or else...) is different from yours too.
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  11. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    Wow, I didn't know these were reproduced. However, the originals will have the year printed on them, the repops won't.
    1958 proof set edit.jpg
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  12. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I can see why the repops dont have the individual years on the bottom.
    Considering the print shop probably has a 1000 quantity minimum order.
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  13. Agreed, most of these I'm sure are too damaged and falling apart. I do know the paper inside isn't original, my dealer only keeps one at a time and this is all he has. I have compared it to my original 1958 and many other flat pack types, even the envelope folds differently!

    Some of them do, this 1960 is clearly not original. Who knows where it came from or who made it though.
  14. Some do...
  15. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I was being sorta general in my answer.
    I can reproduce any of them, but again wouldn't be worth the time and effort for quantity of say 25...not cost effective for such a small quantity.
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  16. love old coins

    love old coins Well-Known Member

    I don't understand why they send proof sets out in just seems like they're wide open to be damaged. Does anyone know why they do it that way?
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  17. Yeah, you’re probably right ;)
  18. They misunderstood my question. Back then that’s just how they came. Pretty sure they didn’t use hard casing until 1966 with the special mint sets…
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  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The print did change on the 1955 to 1964 Proof set envelopes over time. Also the way the sets were stored can effect the tan color of the envelope. Envelopes that have been stored in the light will fade.

    As for whether or not they are sealed, I dare say if you ordered a box of Proof sets from the mint, not all of the envelopes would have been sealed. The so-called "interior sets" would have been open. You could order up to 200 sets in one order in the 1960s as I remember it.

    If you ordered one set, it came to you with the address and the stamps on the regular Proof set envelope. I have one of those sets.
  20. I appreciate all the responses! That’s interesting I wonder who would’ve ordered that many besides dealers back then anyway. I’ve come to the conclusion that these envelopes are not original. As long as the coins are real however is all that matters right!
  21. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    That's probably best, buy the coin not the holder :D
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