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<p>[QUOTE="nesvt, post: 100184, member: 1749"]I never get tired of looking at Morgans!</p><p><br /></p><p>If those were clash marks, it would be from the wreath on the reverse. The curve doesn't seem to match though. I agree with Becky about slide marks and toning. If the dies had rotated at any degree, the arrows still wouldn't protrude enough to go in front of Liberty's face. They would be on her face, and not in front.</p><p><br /></p><p>The marks on the star and in other areas are die gouges/scracthes. They may also be from threads on the master die or hub when the working die was made. Leroy Van Allen won't give new VAM designations for this type of characteristic, but he does use them as die markers. I got a package from him last week with a new VAM discovery. 1902-O VAM 50 was identified with a die gouge at the base of the 2 and an unknown reverse die. The coin has similar thread-like impressions, but it's only being used as a die marker. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you think you might have enough for a new discovery and/or sub-variety of the VAM 20, you can always send him the coin. You just have to include funds for the return S&H&I. </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_2.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><a href="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_1.JPG" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_1.JPG" rel="nofollow">pic2</a> </p><p><a href="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_3.JPG" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_3.JPG" rel="nofollow">pic3</a> </p><p><a href="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/VAM_TEXT_20051222.JPG" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/VAM_TEXT_20051222.JPG" rel="nofollow">text</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="nesvt, post: 100184, member: 1749"]I never get tired of looking at Morgans! If those were clash marks, it would be from the wreath on the reverse. The curve doesn't seem to match though. I agree with Becky about slide marks and toning. If the dies had rotated at any degree, the arrows still wouldn't protrude enough to go in front of Liberty's face. They would be on her face, and not in front. The marks on the star and in other areas are die gouges/scracthes. They may also be from threads on the master die or hub when the working die was made. Leroy Van Allen won't give new VAM designations for this type of characteristic, but he does use them as die markers. I got a package from him last week with a new VAM discovery. 1902-O VAM 50 was identified with a die gouge at the base of the 2 and an unknown reverse die. The coin has similar thread-like impressions, but it's only being used as a die marker. If you think you might have enough for a new discovery and/or sub-variety of the VAM 20, you can always send him the coin. You just have to include funds for the return S&H&I. [IMG]http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_2.JPG[/IMG] [URL=http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_1.JPG]pic2[/URL] [URL=http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/1902O_50_3.JPG]pic3[/URL] [URL=http://www.gmavt.net/~nesvt/VAM_TEXT_20051222.JPG]text[/URL][/QUOTE]
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