Do Chinese doubled dies have value? (Early 1900s)

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  1. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

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    I attended a coin show several months ago and bought this along with a bunch of other Chinese coins, German States, etc for 50¢. When I got home I took a second look at this one and realized it was a DDO. I set it aside since then as a curiosity but I just dug it back up again and am wondering if this actually has value. There were doubled dies on Chinese coins but this is the only one I can find on this variety specifically.

    Any thoughts?
     
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    303 variety 1920 value $ 1.67
     
  4. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Wow haven't seen something like this for a while!
     
  5. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    It's really not DDO ... it's machine/mechanical doubling (MD) caused by the die being loose in the holder/keeper. In the nanosecond after the die strikes the planchet, the die slightly moves as it's coming off the coin.
     
  6. Old World Coins

    Old World Coins Well-Known Member

    Actually its the reverse of the coin so it would be a DDR.
     
  7. Old World Coins

    Old World Coins Well-Known Member

    I would say it sure looks like a DDR. I have several of this style Its hard to see the serifs from the pictures but it sure looks like it.
    I have one that was not as extreme and PCGS labeled it as a minor variety. There are a lot of Chinese error collectors about there You could probably get between $30-50 in the ungraded state its in by my best guess.
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  8. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    It's hard to tell from the photo, but it could be hub-doubling as well, which would make it DDR, rather than MD.
     
  9. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Thank you for the comments everyone. Really cool piece regardless of value.

    Now I know what the reverse is on old Chinese coins.
     
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  10. Old World Coins

    Old World Coins Well-Known Member

    The Ching Dynasty minted coin (Most) have a dragon on the obverse and the same style letters on the reverse. the Republic era 1912-1949 generally have the 2 flags on the Obverse. If I recall correctly one is for the country and one for the military.
     
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  11. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Respectfully, this has obvious signs of true doubling: increased device sizes, notching, etc. In that condition, it likely has no extra value, but it's still cool.
     
  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Machine doubling does not cause a shifted, split secondary image such as this. This is clearly hub doubling - and a very extreme example.
     
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