DMPL Trade Dollars

Just figured I would ask, since I haven't seen it asked yet. You said it graded AU-53, but the picture is named MS-64 DMPL.

 

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It is a 53 i'll take another pic tommorrow,the 64 is a typo.

 

I'm not sure what point I was trying to make other than trying to understand the rationale for your questions.

Regardless, I won't be making any more points in this thread.

Take care...Mike

 

SLAB with Label

These pictures are of the slab with the label @ serial #282237

 

Hi Connor1, that's something I've never seen before-- AU53 DMPL! Are you a member of the CU forum (PCGS)? There are some serious Trade Dollar scholars over there who would probably have some interesting comments and insights about your piece. If you aren't a member, I could try to copy and paste the images over there for you.

 

I am a member,joined to get a few gold coins certified,I'll try to post it,never did anyting on CU.A few years ago I asked if I could get that DMPL from them & they said they never saw a AU DMPL Business Strike Trade Dollar & don't give that cross over designation to T-Dollars.I'll ask again maybe they have changed their rules.If you want to copy it go right ahead.

 

Serial# match ,not tampered

That serial number matches the description.

Paul A. DeFelice
Vice President, Client Services and Marketing
ANACS
303-339-3400

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Connor [mailto:connor45@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:11 AM
To: paul.defelice@anacs.com
Subject: RE: Trade Dollar

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Hi Paul,
The serial # is : 282237 (AU53 DMPL 1877-S TR$ )
Thank You,
Robert

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OK, it's posted on the Collector's Universe US coins forum.

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=731991

 

Thanks,it will be intresting to hear their opinions.

 

Very interesting coin Connor, and quite unique in my opinion. Even though ANACS is considered "lower" than NGC and PCGS, I have seen great coins in their holders, and I don't think they would give a dmpl rating haphazardly.

 

All TPGs make mistakes. Some are simple human errors. An instructor at ANA Summer Seminar brought a number of mislabled slabs. Many of them were comical, like an EF-45 CBH with a grade of G-4. (Someone typed in '4' when they should have typed '45'.) I remember one copper or bronze coin (Two Cent maybe) that was Brown but it had a color designation of Red. Obviously another typo.

I think it is entirely possible that someone inadvertently entered the code for DMPL for this circulated Trade Dollar and no one caught the mistake before the slab went out the door. Stranger things have happened.

 

Well, interesting note from TDN across the street, he is probably the leading expert in the country on this series and he did not have a problem labeling a circulated TD as DMPL as long as the designation fits the coin.

Seems like all is good and I'd keep it in the ANACS holder just to keep the cool DMPL label.

 

Another member across the street mentions that PCGS has an AU55 DMPL Morgan which gives credit to there being DMPL circ coins.

 

I agree ,& have found some nice coins in ANACS holders if you take the time and effort to cherry pick them,you can find so real bargins .

 

According to ANACS President,they do give DMPL designation to AU Trade Dollars,if the mirrors are deep (obverse & reverse as this coin definitely has.Shotting digital images of DMPLs is difficult ,so the pictures don't do justice to the coin.I have PCGS DMPL Morgans in 64 that don't have deep mirrors as good,so my point is this is definitely no mistake or human error,The coin is what it is DMPL ..see letter below;
That serial number matches the description.

Paul A. DeFelice
Vice President, Client Services and Marketing
ANACS
303-339-3400

-----Original Message-----​

From: Bob Connor [mailto:connor45@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:11 AM
To: paul.defelice@anacs.com
Subject: RE: Trade Dollar​

Hi Paul,
The serial # is : 282237 (AU53 DMPL 1877-S TR$ )
Thank You,
Robert

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, Paul Defelice <paul.defelice@anacs.com> wrote:

From: Paul Defelice <paul.defelice@anacs.com>
Subject: RE: Trade Dollar
To: "'Bob Connor'" <connor45@verizon.net>
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 1:38 PM

What's the serial number?

Paul A. DeFelice
Vice President, Client Services

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Point well made ,why not give any AU coins DMPL if they meet the qualifications ?

 

I've decided to do just that & leave it in the ANACS holder even though I think it could grade higher.

 

HoBo you are right but I have seen a PR-53

 

Hi, was this AU53 DMPL, or a PR-53 ?I have also seen many PR 45s

 

I don't get your point. I did not say you cannot have a circulated Proof. A PR-53 is merely a Proof coin that has been circulated.