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<p>[QUOTE="Mike Margolis, post: 3200713, member: 88401"]This write-up is a continuation of the original post on the Dioscuri on coins and in global lore. Here it is <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/divine-twins-horsemen-on-coins-and-in-global-lore.323658/#post-3191741" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/divine-twins-horsemen-on-coins-and-in-global-lore.323658/#post-3191741">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/divine-twins-horsemen-on-coins-and-in-global-lore.323658/#post-3191741</a> </p><p>The most recent collection I have put together has a theme connected to the lineages of spiritual initiation in ancient times and how this appears on ancient coins. Thank you to all who posted and liked the original page on the twins. It is my belief that many themes including several deities and animal/plant totems as well as personages on ancient coins are interconnected with the Divine Twins, and their hats called Pillium or Pilos. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileus_(hat)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileus_(hat)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileus_(hat)</a></p><p>These hats I believe represent the human lines of secret initiation into these mystery traditions. As stated on the first post there are many obvious connections with the Divine Twins and the development and traditions of the great religions of the world in this present day as well as the aboriginal traditions all over the globe. As the native Americans say, "Mitakuey Oyasin"= We are all related.</p><p>Here is a recent page from CT ([USER=82194]@dadams[/USER] )that is also connected to all this <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mithridates-vi-of-pontus-comet-coin.315874/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mithridates-vi-of-pontus-comet-coin.315874/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mithridates-vi-of-pontus-comet-coin.315874/</a> and thanks to the CT members who added to that page. Ed Snible posted a related coin of Paphlagonia, Sinope. circa 120-100 BC that shows the cornucopia between the pilos caps and surmounted by stars as they often are. I do believe that the comets were often seen as heralds of the Divine Twins themselves and so various personages believed they ruled or officiated in religious traditions by divine right when these comets appeared at special times in their lives. Pegasus as a winged white horse is therefore connected to all this as a divine messenger/vehicle and so that brings us to the legend of the great King of Pontus.</p><p>I am writing this and posting a coin that was not part of the collection I had stated previously was complete because I never thought I could afford one of these and since they are so expensive I would require a good provenance and always figured that would be an impossible cost on my budget until this showed up. It is not in great shape but it was less than the four figure prices these coins draw and it also had a great provenance! but one I had to search out and corroborate.</p><p>Mithradates VI is an amazing historical figure and I believe may have been a bridge in the spiritual traditions and high profile leaders between ancient Greece and Persia and the new age that the spectacular birth of the Roman Empire brought to the world. He claimed to be an heir of both the lineage of the ancient Persian Kings and of the line of Alexander the Great. His life and rule by divine right was woven about the appearance of sacred comets. It is an amazing connection I believe that he died sometime in 63 BCE and that a certain Roman was born in September of that very same year who was called Gaius Octavius and also known as <b>Octavian</b>, later to be called <b>Augustus</b> Caesar. He too as we all here know claimed a connection with the Divine comet, his great uncle Julius and their divine right to rule the mighty Roman Empire. And during his life another person of Jewish heritage was born, his birth was marked by a bright star in the sky that some legends have said was a comet and we know about what happened with that little story.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]828332[/ATTACH]</p><p>15.66g</p><p>Diademed head of Mithradates VI right</p><p>Stag grazing left, star and crescent symbol to left, "HKS" = year = 229= 69/68 BC. "BASILEWS MIThRADATOY EYPATOPOS" all within a wreath</p><p>De Callatay S 22 D75R2b</p><p>Overstruck on anot</p><p>(on some of these the stag has obvious wings and is said to be Pegasus and alludes to the comet out of that constellation in the year 135 BCE and the birth of this King)</p><p>this very same coin from acsearch:Kingdom of Pontos, Mithradates VI 120-63 BC, Tetradrachm, 15.66g: Obv: Diademed head of Mithradates VI right Rev: Stag grazing left, star and crescent symbol to left, "HKS" = year = 229= 69/68 BC. "BASILEWS MIThRADATOY EYPATOPOS" all within a wreath. De Callatay S 22 D75R2b. Overstruck on another coin (uncertain undertype), <span style="color: #ff0000">Collection of Alexandre Carathéodory Pasha </span>(1833-1906) (and how I know it has a provenance-the seller did not state this?!)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]828335[/ATTACH] Here is the man from the collection the coin came from.</p><p>Here is the original auction lot on CNGCOINS that I corroborated the provenance from: Coin in the lower left:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]828336[/ATTACH]</p><p>auction CNG: 351, Lot: 892.</p><p>This coin below is one of those from pontus with the two stars one on either side, one with the horse's head(Pegasus and or the Horsemen?) and the other with the comet's tail.[ATTACH=full]828340[/ATTACH]</p><p>KINGS OF PONTUS</p><p>INCERTA, PERHAPS MITHRIDATES VI.</p><p>ca. 120-63 B.C.</p><p>AE Bronze. Perhaps minted in Amisos. Head of horse to r., with 8-rayed star below. Rv. Seven-rayed star with corn ear (or comet?). 2,29 g. SNG Stancomb 653. Lindgren III,9,654. Hoover, Handbook Anatolia, 100,317.</p><p>So many coins are interconnected with all this so post what you wish![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Margolis, post: 3200713, member: 88401"]This write-up is a continuation of the original post on the Dioscuri on coins and in global lore. Here it is [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/divine-twins-horsemen-on-coins-and-in-global-lore.323658/#post-3191741[/url] The most recent collection I have put together has a theme connected to the lineages of spiritual initiation in ancient times and how this appears on ancient coins. Thank you to all who posted and liked the original page on the twins. It is my belief that many themes including several deities and animal/plant totems as well as personages on ancient coins are interconnected with the Divine Twins, and their hats called Pillium or Pilos. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileus_(hat)[/url] These hats I believe represent the human lines of secret initiation into these mystery traditions. As stated on the first post there are many obvious connections with the Divine Twins and the development and traditions of the great religions of the world in this present day as well as the aboriginal traditions all over the globe. As the native Americans say, "Mitakuey Oyasin"= We are all related. Here is a recent page from CT ([USER=82194]@dadams[/USER] )that is also connected to all this [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mithridates-vi-of-pontus-comet-coin.315874/[/url] and thanks to the CT members who added to that page. Ed Snible posted a related coin of Paphlagonia, Sinope. circa 120-100 BC that shows the cornucopia between the pilos caps and surmounted by stars as they often are. I do believe that the comets were often seen as heralds of the Divine Twins themselves and so various personages believed they ruled or officiated in religious traditions by divine right when these comets appeared at special times in their lives. Pegasus as a winged white horse is therefore connected to all this as a divine messenger/vehicle and so that brings us to the legend of the great King of Pontus. I am writing this and posting a coin that was not part of the collection I had stated previously was complete because I never thought I could afford one of these and since they are so expensive I would require a good provenance and always figured that would be an impossible cost on my budget until this showed up. It is not in great shape but it was less than the four figure prices these coins draw and it also had a great provenance! but one I had to search out and corroborate. Mithradates VI is an amazing historical figure and I believe may have been a bridge in the spiritual traditions and high profile leaders between ancient Greece and Persia and the new age that the spectacular birth of the Roman Empire brought to the world. He claimed to be an heir of both the lineage of the ancient Persian Kings and of the line of Alexander the Great. His life and rule by divine right was woven about the appearance of sacred comets. It is an amazing connection I believe that he died sometime in 63 BCE and that a certain Roman was born in September of that very same year who was called Gaius Octavius and also known as [B]Octavian[/B], later to be called [B]Augustus[/B] Caesar. He too as we all here know claimed a connection with the Divine comet, his great uncle Julius and their divine right to rule the mighty Roman Empire. And during his life another person of Jewish heritage was born, his birth was marked by a bright star in the sky that some legends have said was a comet and we know about what happened with that little story. [ATTACH=full]828332[/ATTACH] 15.66g Diademed head of Mithradates VI right Stag grazing left, star and crescent symbol to left, "HKS" = year = 229= 69/68 BC. "BASILEWS MIThRADATOY EYPATOPOS" all within a wreath De Callatay S 22 D75R2b Overstruck on anot (on some of these the stag has obvious wings and is said to be Pegasus and alludes to the comet out of that constellation in the year 135 BCE and the birth of this King) this very same coin from acsearch:Kingdom of Pontos, Mithradates VI 120-63 BC, Tetradrachm, 15.66g: Obv: Diademed head of Mithradates VI right Rev: Stag grazing left, star and crescent symbol to left, "HKS" = year = 229= 69/68 BC. "BASILEWS MIThRADATOY EYPATOPOS" all within a wreath. De Callatay S 22 D75R2b. Overstruck on another coin (uncertain undertype), [COLOR=#ff0000]Collection of Alexandre Carathéodory Pasha [/COLOR](1833-1906) (and how I know it has a provenance-the seller did not state this?!) [ATTACH=full]828335[/ATTACH] Here is the man from the collection the coin came from. Here is the original auction lot on CNGCOINS that I corroborated the provenance from: Coin in the lower left: [ATTACH=full]828336[/ATTACH] auction CNG: 351, Lot: 892. This coin below is one of those from pontus with the two stars one on either side, one with the horse's head(Pegasus and or the Horsemen?) and the other with the comet's tail.[ATTACH=full]828340[/ATTACH] KINGS OF PONTUS INCERTA, PERHAPS MITHRIDATES VI. ca. 120-63 B.C. AE Bronze. Perhaps minted in Amisos. Head of horse to r., with 8-rayed star below. Rv. Seven-rayed star with corn ear (or comet?). 2,29 g. SNG Stancomb 653. Lindgren III,9,654. Hoover, Handbook Anatolia, 100,317. So many coins are interconnected with all this so post what you wish![/QUOTE]
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