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<p>[QUOTE="Bob Evancho, post: 3298326, member: 84595"]Finally your post is about distinguishing between CONDITION and GRADE. CONDITION as a descriptor and GRADE as the number indicating wear. MS-70 is the only UNCIRCULATED GRADE without a condition or descriptor. Anything from 1 to 69 should be a DETAILS GRADE or DESCRIPTOR GRADE. With 11 different GRADES of an uncirculated coin and one only being a true perfect UNCIRCULATED at MS-70, all others should be DETAIL GRADED. I often wonder why the top tier TPGservices don't admit they are wrong and start GRADING with numbers AND descriptors like SEGS and ICG. It's nice to see a coin in a holder by SEGS or ICG graded AU-58 cleaned rather than top TPG's AU details cleaned. Hmmm, maybe the BIG TPG's don't know the difference between an AU-50, AU-53, AU-55 or AU58. But they sure know the difference between MS 60, 61,62,63,64,65,66,67, 68, 69. I can see a TPG making a GRADING mistake but I question a coin (1888-O VAM 4 Hot lips going from AU-58, broken out a number of times and conserved going to MS- 61 or 62) being conserved and resubmitted numerous times till it gets an MS straight GRADE. All for profit I'm sure. And how much did the GRADING service make each time? It's why I keep saying buy the coin, not the holder and buy the coin by how it appeals to your eye. TPG GRADING is just subjective, suggestive GRADE. Buy the book before you buy the coin. Buy a GRADING guide book and educate yourself.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bob Evancho, post: 3298326, member: 84595"]Finally your post is about distinguishing between CONDITION and GRADE. CONDITION as a descriptor and GRADE as the number indicating wear. MS-70 is the only UNCIRCULATED GRADE without a condition or descriptor. Anything from 1 to 69 should be a DETAILS GRADE or DESCRIPTOR GRADE. With 11 different GRADES of an uncirculated coin and one only being a true perfect UNCIRCULATED at MS-70, all others should be DETAIL GRADED. I often wonder why the top tier TPGservices don't admit they are wrong and start GRADING with numbers AND descriptors like SEGS and ICG. It's nice to see a coin in a holder by SEGS or ICG graded AU-58 cleaned rather than top TPG's AU details cleaned. Hmmm, maybe the BIG TPG's don't know the difference between an AU-50, AU-53, AU-55 or AU58. But they sure know the difference between MS 60, 61,62,63,64,65,66,67, 68, 69. I can see a TPG making a GRADING mistake but I question a coin (1888-O VAM 4 Hot lips going from AU-58, broken out a number of times and conserved going to MS- 61 or 62) being conserved and resubmitted numerous times till it gets an MS straight GRADE. All for profit I'm sure. And how much did the GRADING service make each time? It's why I keep saying buy the coin, not the holder and buy the coin by how it appeals to your eye. TPG GRADING is just subjective, suggestive GRADE. Buy the book before you buy the coin. Buy a GRADING guide book and educate yourself.[/QUOTE]
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